Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Vtec has nothing to do with how fast the engine revs.
Vtec has nothing to do with how fast the engine revs.
like im pretty sure fords 3.0 duratec revs faster then there vulcan
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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Don't you think that's a little bit of a stretch?
Please read the actual thread and see the "times" and "history" that is proven.. its so close that its a toss up with a slight edge being given to the ITR (id give it like 55 out of 100 races).. There is no "eating alive" of everything in its path.. there is no "fast revving" anything (at least, not by comparison to the V6 Duratec, which is a fairly fast revving engine, in and of itself)
Its just a different approach to the same answer... you can get to the end of a track in it..
(there are no "records" of those failures on an autoX or road course, so you're obviously talking about drag)Thinkmoto said:The CSVT is not a drag car like the ITR. These are drivers cars, just the ITr is meant to eat alive anything in its way on the track. The track records of the ITR speak for themselves. The CSVT and Cougar have been raced with nothing but a track record of blowing transmissions, headgaskets and racking up DNF's.
(again, you're pointing out that the SVT is more suited to turns VS drag, in opposition to the ITR as it would seem.If you want to find out if your CSVT can hold its own go to an open track day and find out. And if you half a brain you'll be autoxing it or at a track the has TURNS!
You're back pedaling quite nicely. Please review your prior post from a few posts back. In it you point out how the SVT is better suited for turns, and autoXing and couldn't possibly compete with a "DRAG" car like the ITR. Once I point out that the ITR doesn't "eat anything alive" like you say, you then turn around and try to back pedal away and say that you don't care about drag and the ITR is NOW a car built for handling.. Which is it, man?
Also, I'd ask that you not personally insult me or use such langauge on this forum if you don't like what you read.
Please see below.. and have a nice day.
(segments in bold seem to state that you liken the ITR to drag, etc.. which is in complete opposition to your latest post..)
(there are no "records" of those failures on an autoX or road course, so you're obviously talking about drag)
([/B]again, you're pointing out that the SVT is more suited to turns VS drag, in opposition to the ITR as it would seem.
You're back pedaling quite nicely. Please review your prior post from a few posts back. In it you point out how the SVT is better suited for turns, and autoXing and couldn't possibly compete with a "DRAG" car like the ITR. Once I point out that the ITR doesn't "eat anything alive" like you say, you then turn around and try to back pedal away and say that you don't care about drag and the ITR is NOW a car built for handling.. Which is it, man?
Also, I'd ask that you not personally insult me or use such langauge on this forum if you don't like what you read.
Please see below.. and have a nice day.
(segments in bold seem to state that you liken the ITR to drag, etc.. which is in complete opposition to your latest post..)
(there are no "records" of those failures on an autoX or road course, so you're obviously talking about drag)
([/B]again, you're pointing out that the SVT is more suited to turns VS drag, in opposition to the ITR as it would seem.
I'm not back pedaling one but. excuse me I don't proof read my posts. I meant to say the CSVt is not sutied for drag racing nor is the ITR. Is that better?
I'm sure its not because you like 90% of cegers love to argue and point fingers. i don't proof read or spell check. I speak my mind and thats that. And yes the ITR did eat other cars alive on the track....you obviously don't pay much attention to SCCA racing at all. Maybe NOW it doesn't as most who have ran those cars have graduated to newer models as that platform is dead.
The ITR is better then the CSVT period. But, this is an apple to oranges comparison. The ITR is in a different league compared to the CSVT. Its a better car all together.
some comparison huh, take a car thats almost half the weight with almost as much engine and factory tuned suspension and compare it to a performance tuned family sedan.
no its closer to 2200 lbs, I was just trying to make a point. BTW last time I took a contour over a scale I saw a weight of 3250 in a stock contour with me not in it. So where do you get 1400 lbs from? And I say almost as much motor not in reference to displacement, I meant that referring to output ITR ~195 HP
You may have meant to say it but you werent even that close to saying it that way in the first place. You made the ITR sound like a dragster and the CSVT sound like a corner carver.
And yes modified ITRs do quite well but so do modified Civics and RSX models so whats the point? That platform was a proven winner and is still one of the all time best front wheel drive platforms ever, which is why people still use it and people still make a ton of parts for it.
I wouldnt say the ITR is "better" because its a totally different car. It was a Japanese factory tuned hatchback that was already an accepted winner whereas the CSVT was a European sporty sedan with some minor factory tuning. They were never meant to compete with each other but were both magazine darlings because of their relatively low cost to fun ratio.
So, when did you become a woman....because it must be that time of the month AND you like to create drama. Need a hug....flowers....a date for valentines day....or are you cranky because you have no date? :shrug:I'll say it again. This is an apple to oranges comparison. The ITR is an all together better car. I know the civic and RSX platforms are good...duh who doesn't? My old del sol handled almost as well as my old built CSVT and it had for tires compared to the parada spec 2's I had on the svt. If you want to keep whining about the fact I mistyped what I was trying to say go right ahead. Your arguing a mute point now with that.
And for the tool from dakota or whatever your name is. yes 90% of CEGers love to argue pointless things...like this thread for instance. I'm one of them, I just can't stand listening to you guys talk out of your ass about the ITR. The CSVT is a family sedan "tuned" suspension or not its not anything the ITR is. Likewise the ITR is not a family car or a person,grocery junk hauler like the CSVT is.
They both have there place one on the street hauling fat ass's the other on the track hauling ass.
And for the tool from dakota or whatever your name is. yes 90% of CEGers love to argue pointless things...like this thread for instance. I'm one of them, I just can't stand listening to you guys talk out of your ass about the ITR. The CSVT is a family sedan "tuned" suspension or not its not anything the ITR is. Likewise the ITR is not a family car or a person,grocery junk hauler like the CSVT is.
I'll say it again. This is an apple to oranges comparison. The ITR is an all together better car. I know the civic and RSX platforms are good...duh who doesn't? My old del sol handled almost as well as my old built CSVT and it had for tires compared to the parada spec 2's I had on the svt. If you want to keep whining about the fact I mistyped what I was trying to say go right ahead. Your arguing a mute point now with that.
So, when did you become a woman....because it must be that time of the month AND you like to create drama. Need a hug....flowers....a date for valentines day....or are you cranky because you have no date? :shrug: