I looked at my svt one last night. its kinda plastic, its somewhat flexable. where as I recall the Se one being hard plastic when I removed it.
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Is a K&N RU-3530 + heatshield really better than a dropin K&N filter + SVT heatshield
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I looked at my svt one last night. its kinda plastic, its somewhat flexable. where as I recall the Se one being hard plastic when I removed it.
not sure if this answers your question but I datalogged the IAC sensor and compared my KKM with and w/o a heat shield.
http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showpost.php?p=483000&postcount=32
anytime you can get cooler air into the engine the better it is. I know on my turbo car over the summer in ~90 degree heat with the intercooler I had Iats that where right around 100 degrees. On a 70 degree day the iac reported about the same temp. car performs better when it gets cold air.
tigerpwr
CEG'er
^ interesting
Velocity of the air must be more important than the immediate heat transfer in the manifold.
kinda makes me want to learn physics -NOT!
Velocity of the air must be more important than the immediate heat transfer in the manifold.
kinda makes me want to learn physics -NOT!
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
LOL. I'm gonna put something in my sig as well now.
TRicker
Hard-core CEG'er
what i would like to see is a chambered carbon fiber intake like the "whale cock" intake for integras. a really wide plenum coming into the engine bay and a 2 1/2" tube going into the fender, with a filter right on the side, long and narrow cone so it would fit, but stay high in the fender. i'll show you guys what i'm going to do with an intake once i can finally get the stock plastic pieces.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
I was referring to you putting that in your sig
Oh! I thought he needed something in his sig about being a fan of mine.
I know what your talking about, kinda like the the foxbody mustangs fender intake system.
I loved that intake :drool:
carlover
CEG'er
Oiled filters = fouled MAF sensor.
beyondloadedSE
Hard-core CEG'er
I can't imagine something like this making that much of a difference. There is conduction and convection going on here at the same time.
It might be a few degrees cooler where the UIM mates with the spacer, but the underhood temps make the UIM hot for the most part.ugh oh......you just started a whole mess of problems....doyel where are you :laugh:
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
I'm right here!
And you can kill a MAF with a K&N out of the box without ever adding oil. I've seen it happen to my dad's 3.0 Ranger and also to the BMW M3 that I used to co-own. Both times K&N stopped replying to our emails for help and advice the second we hinted at it being their fault and not ours. The BMW was bad enough that it left red grit in the intake tube that stayed on your finger.
The Digital Slacker
Hard-core CEG'er
K&N filters kill all your cars! Its true, this is a story of two cars possibly being damaged by a filter whereas there are hundreds of thousands of them sold.
I have one on my SVT and i like it. I have dry drop in filter on my protege and like that as well.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Hundreds of thousands have been sold but you'll find hundreds of similar stories. When CFC brought out their MAF contact cleaner with cleaning off filter oil in mind it should have opened more eyes. When filter oil shows up in your used oil analysis along with higher dirt levels you know something isnt right.
Silver Bullet
CEG'er
Different strokes for different folks, everybody has their own opinion, experiences and reasons.
For me I have been using K&N's on all my different fuel injected vehicles the past 15 years; '95 Acura Integra, '02 Honda Accord, '01 Daewoo Lanos, '04 Mazdaspeed Miata turbo, '06 Toyota Hi-Lux turbo diesel, '00 Merc Cougar Duratec and '99 Ford CSVT
All combined about 400,000 miles of driving without even a hint of a problem. I have even severely over-oiled my filters on more than one occasion.
For me empirical data is key. Just happened to come across this the other day.
http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm
click on "Can Oil Come Off our Filters" if you want to watch only one as it is the most informative.
Of course it is K&N data so many will choose not believe but scientifically there are no flaws I can find in their logic and tests.
For me I have been using K&N's on all my different fuel injected vehicles the past 15 years; '95 Acura Integra, '02 Honda Accord, '01 Daewoo Lanos, '04 Mazdaspeed Miata turbo, '06 Toyota Hi-Lux turbo diesel, '00 Merc Cougar Duratec and '99 Ford CSVT
All combined about 400,000 miles of driving without even a hint of a problem. I have even severely over-oiled my filters on more than one occasion.
For me empirical data is key. Just happened to come across this the other day.
http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm
click on "Can Oil Come Off our Filters" if you want to watch only one as it is the most informative.
Of course it is K&N data so many will choose not believe but scientifically there are no flaws I can find in their logic and tests.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
K&N also states power gains that cant be replicated and filtering data that isnt backed up by repeat tests. Take everything with a grain of salt until you see some actual back to back data.
Silver Bullet
CEG'er
+1
Any HP or MPG gains (if any) are very minimal. Only reason I go K&N is for the buy it one time re-useability factor and I like the added intake sound.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Then you'd love a dry media filter like an AFE or AEM. You dont need the extra cleaning kits that can get messy and they actually filter like the stock filter does.