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Knock Mod: +1hp for free
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hotdimmes
Hard-core CEG'er
Hell, I had a 4hp swing on my last dyno. 146, 143, 147 :shrug: and I didn't even change anything.
Also, FWIW, and I hate to be "that guy" who is always going to mention 2.3Turbos now that he owns one, but from turboford.net
"At first glance, disconnecting the knock sensor would seem nuts. BUT, the knock sensor is easily fooled by non-detonation noises into pulling out timing when it shouldn't, and it takes out way too much. People generally run about 3 tenths faster when they disconnect it...you gotta use your brain to avoid detonation and broken parts."
Also, FWIW, and I hate to be "that guy" who is always going to mention 2.3Turbos now that he owns one, but from turboford.net
"At first glance, disconnecting the knock sensor would seem nuts. BUT, the knock sensor is easily fooled by non-detonation noises into pulling out timing when it shouldn't, and it takes out way too much. People generally run about 3 tenths faster when they disconnect it...you gotta use your brain to avoid detonation and broken parts."
You may think my zx2 is ugly, but I really don't think it's going to be all that slow.
Anyways peak hp isn't everything, pots mod, while giving a decent net gain, is more about how your car responds at around 4k. It's very different with pot's on.
Anyways peak hp isn't everything, pots mod, while giving a decent net gain, is more about how your car responds at around 4k. It's very different with pot's on.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
I haven't seen the intake resistor thing. I know this is may the same thing but is the for gas mileage or power? Most intake resistors people usually round around 5k of resistance.
Pots mod, optimally, uses about 38k of resistance. It works on both the ECT and the IAT. The ECT is the more important connection. Dyno's have proven it to on average to add about 6-9 whp. That's most people's results I have seen people get more. I don't see how it is crap :shrug:
It makes a pretty big difference on the zx2, if but only for 30 seconds or so.
It can look cool too.
That doesn't look cool :shocked:
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
How much time/money are you going to put into a zx2 to make it "not slow?" 130hp is a terrible platform try a festiva. also don't do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L26kTJjgIG4 they gave you a song
striker2
Official CEG Vendor
for $3-4K you can have a boosted Zetec (any platform) thats faster than 3L swapped SVTs.
judging by his sig he's gone well beyond just a basic turbo install.130HP is relative. put a 130HP in a car that only weighs 1300lbs. itll move.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
for $3-4K you can have a boosted Zetec (any platform) thats faster than 3L swapped SVTs.
or you could do the same to a car that starts out with more hp...that would be logical and it might not look as bad as a zx2...and be alot faster and zx2s weigh like 2600 lb nobody was talking about doing that to 1300lb cars
Keep in mind this is not my daily driver.It's not the greatest looking car, but its a cheap platform to race and maintain. For the amount of money I put into it I couldn't be happier. A Zx2 was also my first car so. I'm hoping this car will be weighing in somewhere around 2200 lbs.
Second off, a stock SVTF engine has 170 flywheel hp. Same as a duratec 2.5.
Check a stock svt's torque curve , as well. VCT FTW.
PS: I am not a fan of any body kit for the zx2. I do like the wings west lip kit. My car looks 100% stock, minus 2" drop.
PPS: Try telling the kid whos car that is that the pots mod doesn't look cool. He loves it.
Second off, a stock SVTF engine has 170 flywheel hp. Same as a duratec 2.5.
Check a stock svt's torque curve , as well. VCT FTW.
PS: I am not a fan of any body kit for the zx2. I do like the wings west lip kit. My car looks 100% stock, minus 2" drop.
PPS: Try telling the kid whos car that is that the pots mod doesn't look cool. He loves it.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
Keep in mind this is not my daily driver.It's not the greatest looking car, but its a cheap platform to race and maintain. For the amount of money I put into it I couldn't be happier. A Zx2 was also my first car so. I'm hoping this car will be weighing in somewhere around 2200 lbs.
Second off, a stock SVTF engine has 170 flywheel hp. Same as a duratec 2.5.
Check a stock svt's torque curve , as well. VCT FTW.
PS: I am not a fan of any body kit for the zx2. I do like the wings west lip kit. My car looks 100% stock, minus 2" drop.
PPS: Try telling the kid whos car that is that the pots mod doesn't look cool. He loves it.
WTF does the svtf have to do with anything it still has more power and would've been an actual platform to start with?
my first car was a zx2 as well i hated it.
i'm not a fan of most body kits either and the zx2 song is amazingly awesome.
tell the kid who thinks the pots mod is cool to die:nonono:
That kid is getting a PNP head I did for him, along with a SVTF intake manifold and throttle body. JBA bullhorn headers to a t3 garrett turbo. The SVTF intake manifold has switchable short long runners hooked up to a window switch to go to short after 6ish-k, whatever you set it to.
It's going to be pretty quick.
It's going to be pretty quick.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
why? it's still an escort :nonono:
as long as it ends up like this it's ok http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAmyaTKtqQ
striker2
Official CEG Vendor
except that the car that starts out with more HP will likely cost you the $3-4K (or more) more than the zetec.
you said 130HP is a terrible platform. a HP rating is not a platform, the ZX2 is a platform, contour is a platform, etc. thus my statement about 130hp engine in a 1300lb platform. your just hating on the Zetec, and im not sure why. its an amazing engine that can take a lot of abuse. hell, look at my thread about the probe pistons, even with a huge hole in one of the pistons, and cracks in the others, the engine just kept on going. i'd like to see a duratec do that.
you clearly havent read his signiture yet.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
what is the 1300lb platform it's not the zx2... i'm not hating on zetec i like the focus svt it would be a better platform i am however hating on zx2's they are pretty worthless and retarded to modify. and no i didn't check the signature haha. my bad
striker2
Official CEG Vendor
1300lb platform would be something along the lines of a Lotus 7 style car that im planning on building. although i will probably turbo or supercharge it so it will have more than 200WHP, but i could get by with just a stock Zetec.
then say the ZX2 is aty platform (although clearly they can hit 11s, so its better at drag racing than a contour).
then say the ZX2 is a
ty platform (although clearly they can hit 11s, so its better at drag racing than a contour).tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
1300lb platform would be something along the lines of a Lotus 7 style car that im planning on building. although i will probably turbo or supercharge it so it will have more than 200WHP, but i could get by with just a stock Zetec.
then say the ZX2 is a
why would you put a zetec in a lotus first of all?
there are alot of cars that are better at drag racing than a contour how about from a roll. and i still say that it is a
ty platform...anyways i just got my mirko splitter from the ups guy i'll talk to you laterstriker2
Official CEG Vendor
why not? it weighs less and has more displacement in a smaller overall size than the miata engine (which is what most people use). with a bellhousing from Quads4rods it will bolt to a T5. :shrug:
hotdimmes
Hard-core CEG'er
lol how can people possibly be ragging on escorts of any kind here? We drive ford contours! I love them both and I don't think either type of owner has the right to be high and mightier than the other.
tredsvt98
Veteran CEG'er
a SVTF zetec would be logical but why the zetec from a zx2?!
Zetec equippped Lotus kit cars are basically standard now. Most people building them now are putting them in.
And truth to the ragging on escorts remark, contours are what, one whole notch above escorts.
Please elobarote on why a zx2 is a terrible platform to start with. The after market is wayyyy bigger than the Contours aftermarket, thanks to the early focus sharing the same engines. The SVTF engine is a stones throw from a regular zetec. Cams and port and youll be near the svtf numbers. The SVTF engine IS a zetec....I hope you realize that.
And truth to the ragging on escorts remark, contours are what, one whole notch above escorts.
Please elobarote on why a zx2 is a terrible platform to start with. The after market is wayyyy bigger than the Contours aftermarket, thanks to the early focus sharing the same engines. The SVTF engine is a stones throw from a regular zetec. Cams and port and youll be near the svtf numbers. The SVTF engine IS a zetec....I hope you realize that.