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Bellhousing Adapter Coming Very Soon

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jnuke25

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Long time member from NECO looking into doing either AWD/RWD on my 3.0 Turbo Cougar. Just wanted to give the community a heads up that these guys http://www.quad4rods.com/ are order the cast to make an bellhousing adapter to go to a T-5 tranny. Just wanted to let eveyone over here know.
 
Well this should be pretty interesting to say the least. If it stays in the price range of their other products sounds like this could be a great option.
 
so our 225 hp engines can loose power through parisitic loss, by the time its at the wheels you'll be lucky to see 180 hp. the only real way to go rwd is to toss in an engine with more power to overcome the losses. but awd on the other hand could be fun.
 
But since he has a turbo 3.0L, he'd have at least 350hp at the wheels. If RWD for our platform was feasible, I think I'd hang on to my car for a very long time.

It looks like their bellhousing was developed for the I4 Duratec... but it *should* still work on the v6.
 
newb said:
so our 225 hp engines can loose power through parisitic loss, by the time its at the wheels you'll be lucky to see 180 hp. the only real way to go rwd is to toss in an engine with more power to overcome the losses. but awd on the other hand could be fun.
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transaxles have parasitic loses as well. an engine making 225BHP mated to an MTX75 would only put about 185HP to the ground anyways.

morbid said:
But since he has a turbo 3.0L, he'd have at least 350hp at the wheels. If RWD for our platform was feasible, I think I'd hang on to my car for a very long time.

It looks like their bellhousing was developed for the I4 Duratec... but it *should* still work on the v6.
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the 4cyl duratec uses a different bellhousing pattern than the V6. what the OP is saying, is that Q4R is getting a bellhousing made up that fits the Duratec V6 to a T5 to add to their products.
 
doesnt make any sence to me, if your gonna go through the work of making it rwd then you should just toss in a 5.0. its chap and easy to wire up then you'd have a ton more power and wow factor. just saying.
 
newb said:
doesnt make any sence to me, if your gonna go through the work of making it rwd then you should just toss in a 5.0. its chap and easy to wire up then you'd have a ton more power and wow factor. just saying.
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No, a 5.0 is not going to make as much power as a 3L-Turbo unless it has a lot of work done to it. It would already be a ton of work to swap to RWD, no need to further complicate things by swapping in a different motor.
 
So... assuming that the rear axle would be out of a mustang or something, That would make it difficult to match a set of wheels to the front wouldn't it :shrug:? Awww screw it!! I'd rock mismatched steelies if it meant my 'tour was RWD! :laugh:
 
Just to clarify they are odering the cast next week for the V6 Duratec 2.5 or 3.0 bellhousing adapter to mate with a T-5 tranny. And yes the power loss would be an issue with out rocking some sort of FI system, and I agree that dropping a 5.0 in it would not really do much of an improvement unless I build that motor up to put down in the neighborhood of 400whp. But i am in the very beginning stages of this project and will keep both communities informed of my progress. This was just a thread to inform everyone that IT (the adapter) is coming. But i'm glad to see it sparked some interest!!!
 
seriously, drivetrain loss isnt any more of an issue with a RWD setup than with the stock FWD setup. the average RWD and FWD manual setups both have between 15 and 20% loss. now going from 2WD to an AWD setup would increase the drivetrain loss as the avg manual AWD setup has between 20 and 25% loss.
 
i honestly would build a 5.0, its not hard to get 400 hp out of them if done right and the wiring is simple. just saying. but good luck with the project, i know ill be following it.
 
newb said:
i honestly would build a 5.0, its not hard to get 400 hp out of them if done right and the wiring is simple. just saying. but good luck with the project, i know ill be following it.
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I would agree that a 5.0 is easy to get 400hp out of it, if its done right, but my 3.0 is already doing that so it would just be a waste of cash that needs to go into the getting this project rolling!!!!!
 
newb said:
so our 225 hp engines can loose power through parisitic loss, by the time its at the wheels you'll be lucky to see 180 hp. the only real way to go rwd is to toss in an engine with more power to overcome the losses. but awd on the other hand could be fun.
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Or you can have a properly prepped 3.0L like TRicker and have 220 hp at the wheels. Isn't that what the 5.0L were putting out?
 
newb said:
stock yes, but your missing the point lol, i said a built engine.
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and a properly built Duratec can make just as much power (even the 4cyl Zetec could make as much power) as a 5L. there are a couple Zetec Foci making over 500WHP, and lots of Nobles doing the same. why go through the hassle of making an engine with extra cylinders work when you can make the same power with engines that were already designed to be run in the chassis.
 
striker2 said:
and a properly built Duratec can make just as much power (even the 4cyl Zetec could make as much power) as a 5L. there are a couple Zetec Foci making over 500WHP, and lots of Nobles doing the same. why go through the hassle of making an engine with extra cylinders work when you can make the same power with engines that were already designed to be run in the chassis.
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yes the2.5's were designed to run in them, transversly. either way you HAVE to modify the fire way for it to fit how ya'llare planning. so im simply saying, if I were to do this, wich i probly never will(may do awd if i can find the info on what trans fits). but i will follow the build because im extremely intersted in it.
 
im not talking about modifying the firewall (although the firewall would have to be modified less with the shorter length of either the Zetec or Duratec), or mounting the engine at all. im talking about actually making the engine run, using the stock PCM and wiring. it will be far, far easier to use the stock PCM and wiring harness (only modified as needed) than it will be to set up a stand alone PCM and harness. there is no way to run 8 cylinders off the stock PCM, so you would have to either go with a stand alone setup, or use a stock PCM/harness for a V8 (and getting it to talk to the gauges and work with the rest of the car would be an absolute nightmare).
 
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