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Heel and Toe Downshift... Can you do it in your CSVT?

I kinda wonder about the less wear on the clutch part if not done well engine rev and clutch release could overlap and increase wear just a thought:shrug: any way kinda funny I was test driving a kia rio at work today and found myself heeltowing on accident:crazy:
 
well ya obviously you need to know how to do it. but after drivin my element for 3 years and 96k my clutch is still perfect.
 
if you really want to master rev matching gently practice downshift rev matching without the clutch. it will NOT hurt the transmission when done correctly. I have been doing it for 5 years and 100K miles and have no sycro issues. it takes no force to do it properly. when the correct revs are acquired the shift lever will almost be sucked into the gate with little to now effort at all.

when you can do this every time without issue then you have mastered rev matching. now adding the double clutch it ensures even greater life of the syncros.

I do this for fun every now and then to make sure that my matches are spot on.

challenge anyone?
 
kscontourkid said:
if you really want to master rev matching gently practice downshift rev matching without the clutch. it will NOT hurt the transmission when done correctly. I have been doing it for 5 years and 100K miles and have no sycro issues. it takes no force to do it properly. when the correct revs are acquired the shift lever will almost be sucked into the gate with little to now effort at all.

when you can do this every time without issue then you have mastered rev matching. now adding the double clutch it ensures even greater life of the syncros.

I do this for fun every now and then to make sure that my matches are spot on.

challenge anyone?
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That was one of the first tricks I learned with a manual.

My stepdad drives trucks for a living and mentioned that he never up or down-gears with a clutch, so I asked how it worked then learned how to do it on my first two MTX cars. Didn't have to beat on my MTX-75, thank God.
 
Yeah, I can do that too. It was easier in my Jetta though, because it was so easy to know where the engine should be.
1st 2000=10, 3000=20
2nd 2000=20, 3000=30
3rd 2000=30, 3000=40
etc.

The gears were spaced perfectly until about 4th or 5th to where this pattern was followed.
 
I almost never use the clutch when I shift, but then again thats cause I got used to driving semis so I guess I just forget about the clutch when I am in my car.

Going back to the original discussion, my feet and legs are to big to comfortably heel toe in a contour. But honestly you shouldnt need to heel toe in a contour very much. I just hit the gear I want to exit on and then I go on the throttle hard. If I need more weight biasing I hit the brakes to nose down a little to break traction on the rear. I really havent ever needed to heel toe a fwd much, even my little turbo escort monster and I have had that on more than a few tracks before it got totalled. I suppose I will try some different pedals in my car some time and hopefully I will have an easier time. Either way, in a FWD you can drive it without mastering heel toe, mostly heel toe in a fwd is just to look cool I think. Anyways, you guys may disagree, but thats the way I was taught.

(6'2 wear size 14 boots most of the time)

:Edit Im suprised there are so many people in this discussion. I didnt think there were so many people that actually raced in their contours. Really isnt the ratio of people in here that actually make real power in their contours pretty low? I mean most people just do what I have so far, bolt ons and maybe some light machine work.
 
Heel toe is the way to go no matter what the layout of the car is. I could learn you why at a student driving event. Also, understeer is something less experienced drivers don't know how to control. Just autocross more and understeer will mostly become a thing of the past.
 
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