EGR pipe solutions?

[Tex]

Emissions? You people worry about emissions? I live an in an emissions testing state and I've been driving around for almost a year without an inspection sticker with absolutely no problems.

 

[KAOS_3.0]

I don't have a full 3L now do I? How would that make any sense on a ported 3L with a SVT UIM. Obviously, I don't have it rigged up like that on my car.

I told people that is how they could do it on a full 3L if they didn't have any welding skills. Would a custom made spacer with a nice metal clip look more professional? Both would acheive the same result. Just because I used parts lying around doesn't mean it's a half ass job if it worked and those cars all all running fine. I don't sell full 3L's any more and haven't for a few years partly because of the various full 3L mods that can potentially cause install problems for the novice installer.

man, I wasn't knocking you, more I was saying if you jack stuff up sometimes why all the hate for me?

I know why this one failed, stupid coilpack harness wiring. blame it on who you will, but members of this site even said "hope you didn't bend a rod with it idling like that"

that problem is now resolved, thanks to Turbo_Fox, and the new engine (a better on btw) should be fine. you all seem to be quite pessimistic and negative in general. lighten up a bit folks, it's not that funny when a farmer gets dismembered by his combine.

 

[Pudmunkie]

and still, I say again, if it wasn't needed in the first place, it wouldn't have been there in the first place.

Its for ing emissions! That is why the put it in! Trust me, if Ford was allowed to they'd cut it out, think of all the money they could save on every motor....


Stop being a twat or stop posting!

 

[FIND]

lighten up a bit folks, it's not that funny when a farmer gets dismembered by his combine.

yes it is. One of the guys on the farm that I worked on lost a leg ~7 years ago. He will make more jokes about having one leg than anyone.

his best line "at least I can honestly say my dick is longer than my leg"

 

[KAOS_3.0]

well I can say that anyways....

 

[SoopaCooga]

i can see where you're coming from in wanting everything to function properly, but you no longer have a stock car, and not everything meant for a stock car can be expected to function properly anymore.

for the reasons you listed, i decided to try to keep my EGR. guess what? after all that work, my 2.5L PCM doesn't like the EGR on my 3.0L motor, so i had to have it disabled in the tune.

the take away is this: you can try to make it work, and if you pull it off you can be proud of that. but know in advance that it might not work even if you do everything "right." these guys are just trying to save you the headache. whatever you decide, best o' luck to ya.

 

[KAOS_3.0]

thanks man. how was it that your 2.5 pcm didn't like the 3.0 EGR? only thing going to it is a single vac line?

or are you reffering to the EVR (EGR Vac Regulator, little black thing on uim)? I'm fairly certain the EVR from the 2.5 would bolt to my 02 uim?

in other news, looks sort of like I wount be able to use the 04 taurus tube, as it locates the DPFE to the back of the engine and the lines dont lok like they would reach.

you think a piece of like 5/8 electrical conduit would work for making a sleeve to weld my two halves together? I can weld it without a sleeve, but doing so and having the result line up correctly is highly unlikely.

 

[SoopaCooga]

thanks man. how was it that your 2.5 pcm didn't like the 3.0 EGR? only thing going to it is a single vac line?

or are you reffering to the EVR (EGR Vac Regulator, little black thing on uim)? I'm fairly certain the EVR from the 2.5 would bolt to my 02 uim?

The PCM throws codes for both DPFE too much flow *and* DPFE not enough flow. :crazy:

in other news, looks sort of like I wount be able to use the 04 taurus tube, as it locates the DPFE to the back of the engine and the lines dont lok like they would reach.

I have an 03 block, but I was able to keep the stock DPFE location. The EGR vacuum regulator (EVR) is moved to the belt-side of the 3L UIM. Maybe you can keep that location if you use the 3L vacuum assembly (a.k.a. vacuum tree). Using the 2.5L vacuum assembly locates the EVR right beside the EGR sample tube, so figure out some way to keep them from touching!

you think a piece of like 5/8 electrical conduit would work for making a sleeve to weld my two halves together? I can weld it without a sleeve, but doing so and having the result line up correctly is highly unlikely.

That's a creative solution, but why not use a heat sleeve or header wrap? I used the sleeves of spare sample tubes for my EGR tube, then zip tied them to be sure they didn't shift around. Melting hoses and such isn't much fun. :nonono:

 

[Redlineracer12]

The PCM throws codes for both DPFE too much flow *and* DPFE not enough flow. :crazy:

Interesting as mine used to throw the same codes until I had the EGR tuned out. I'm even using the SVT UIM.

I always just thought my PCM was mad at me for the time I melted my alternator wire to my EGR pipe. (didn't this also happened to blu_fuz, and maybe even TRicker too? :laugh

Guess maybe I don't need a new PCM at the moment then :troutslap: :laugh:

 

[KAOS_3.0]

The PCM throws codes for both DPFE too much flow *and* DPFE not enough flow. :crazy:



I have an 03 block, but I was able to keep the stock DPFE location. The EGR vacuum regulator (EVR) is moved to the belt-side of the 3L UIM. Maybe you can keep that location if you use the 3L vacuum assembly (a.k.a. vacuum tree). Using the 2.5L vacuum assembly locates the EVR right beside the EGR sample tube, so figure out some way to keep them from touching!



That's a creative solution, but why not use a heat sleeve or header wrap? I used the sleeves of spare sample tubes for my EGR tube, then zip tied them to be sure they didn't shift around. Melting hoses and such isn't much fun. :nonono:

aha! it's not recognizing the signal from the plastic DPFE!!! so I'll have to remember to swap on the aluminum one from the 2.5 today (since that one and the new 3l are sitting around already ), I've been told in the past that the best idea is to use as many of the electrical components as possible from the host because they match the pcm. I also wonder if the EVR needs to be swapped too?

also, my EVR and DPFE on the 02 were in their original 3.0 positions, and will be staying that way.

about the conduit, I wasn't saying as an insulator, I plan to use all the original fiberglass/asbestos sleeves. I even have one more now from the new engine.

what I was asking is if you think 5/8 metal electrical conduit will fit over the egr pipes well enough to fashion a coupler tube with two welds like a pep boys exhaust coupler works. that way I can slide it together, get both ends to line up, tack weld it, then pull it off and weld it up all nice. nawmean?

 

[TRicker]

Interesting as mine used to throw the same codes until I had the EGR tuned out. I'm even using the SVT UIM.

I always just thought my PCM was mad at me for the time I melted my alternator wire to my EGR pipe. (didn't this also happened to blu_fuz, and maybe even TRicker too? :laugh

Guess maybe I don't need a new PCM at the moment then :troutslap: :laugh:

yes this happened to me. blew the "megafuse"

my issue was not the egr pipe, i am a pipefitter.... if i can't make a small tube like that work without leaking, they're not gonna let me put in sprinkler systems meant to save your life.

my issue was i routed the power cable on teh wrong side of the tube, and didnt notice it was touching till the fist time i started up 3L#1 and it lost all the guages, :laugh:

 

[KAOS_3.0]

oh dude, I know exactly what you mean, thats a

I now have the 2.5l dpfe bolted to the 04, we shall see if that fixes the CEL you all speak of