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BLKOUT2: Rebirth. PRT 2011 track car build thread.

Please tell me the graphics will be gloss black!

How close do you think the side skirts are going to be to the ground? You're still going to use them, right?
 
TourEnvy said:
Please tell me the graphics will be gloss black!

How close do you think the side skirts are going to be to the ground? You're still going to use them, right?
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The graphics may or may not be gloss black.... ;)

That picture is about 1" lower than the car will sit after the new springs. I actually have enough room in the wheel well after all the fender and clearance work I did to lay side skirt on static drop.

I will have a pictoral update tonight if time allows, but the good news is she lives again, and will be driven to the paint booth Saturday....
 
Paint adds weight... I thought this was supposed to be a lightweight car... :P

Nice progress, can't wait to see how this turns out. Keep up the good work!
 
Nice build thread, I've been following it for a while. Just curious, what dampers are you using? If you're going to be running it that low at 1G static without modified towers and top-mount camber plates, surely you can't have much bump stroke left...? And since you're using a 24mm bar, I'm thinking your rear spring rate wouldn't be that outrageously high to compensate for the lowness. As a reference, I've recently changed to very stiff rates and am consequently removing both sways to test the improvement to cornering grip and stability. What rates are you going with front and rear?

Just curious because I'm really interested to see how this project turns out. By the way, if you still need anyone to evaluate and give feedback on the control arms in a combination street, autocross, and track environment, very willing and able OEM chassis guy right here...just throwing that out there! :ponder:
 
rollinstylee said:
Nice build thread, I've been following it for a while. Just curious, what dampers are you using? If you're going to be running it that low at 1G static without modified towers and top-mount camber plates, surely you can't have much bump stroke left...? And since you're using a 24mm bar, I'm thinking your rear spring rate wouldn't be that outrageously high to compensate for the lowness. As a reference, I've recently changed to very stiff rates and am consequently removing both sways to test the improvement to cornering grip and stability. What rates are you going with front and rear?

Just curious because I'm really interested to see how this project turns out. By the way, if you still need anyone to evaluate and give feedback on the control arms in a combination street, autocross, and track environment, very willing and able OEM chassis guy right here...just throwing that out there! :ponder:
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I've been wondering this as well... there needs to be some suspension movement, even with it being a track only car. There is such a thing as going too low, as it throws the roll center way off, unless as you said the strut towers have been changed to give the struts more room for bump/rebound.

Just keeping the discussion lively ;)



Shannon
 
The car will never be run that low, as stated when I initially posted that picture earlier in the thread. It was simply a demonstration of how much room I've made for suspension travel. Currently the car is sitting on Koni/GC. I am waiting to finish assembly and get the car on the scales to determine new spring rates, as well as potentially revolving the struts. Suspension geometry is always in the back of my head, but I'm not setting anything until the car is essentially complete for the sake of not changing things over and over throughout the course of construction.

CSVT#49 said:
Getting to be past my bed time... needs more pics! :laugh:
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I was too tired.....6AM-Midnight all week will do that to you. Maybe Saturday morning.
 
I wasn't referring to the ride height of the picture alone, but this:
Pole120 said:
That picture is about 1" lower than the car will sit after the new springs.
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So it sounded like you were saying you'd have maybe 1" of bump stroke, which would start damaging things especially when clipping apex berms. Anyway, still very interested in what rates you go with after the car is weighed.
 
rollinstylee said:
I wasn't referring to the ride height of the picture alone, but this:

So it sounded like you were saying you'd have maybe 1" of bump stroke, which would start damaging things especially when clipping apex berms. Anyway, still very interested in what rates you go with after the car is weighed.
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I'll be sure to keep you posted.

And holy ••••, 10K views? Um wow.
 
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Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. It's been 6 days since my last pictorial update.

Just throwing a few up as I'm about to leave to drive the car to paint....

Suspension in:

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Firewall and subframe bolt access holes plugged:

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EGR delete installed and cage primed/painted:

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Bought a die and re-threaded the tie rods. Now fully and easily adjusted. This is something the bothered me for a LONG time. Glad to finally have it done:

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it looks sort of cool without the back bumper

can't wait to see it painted and put together

you keep calling that X brace a cage, but what are you going to do for a roll bar and harness attachment?
 
Looks awesome! I hope the police are cool out by you. Here in Cleveland I would get pulled over the second i pulled out of my drive way like that.
 
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