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Wideband o2 questions

I know alot of tuners recommending and using AEM, guys that run standalone fuel systems getting 300+ from a 1.9L Saturn to boot. I've never heard of an issue before. I don't know if I'd use the word hardcore for anyone still using the factory PCM anyway though.
 
Nofrag said:
I know alot of tuners recommending and using AEM, guys that run standalone fuel systems getting 300+ from a 1.9L Saturn to boot. I've never heard of an issue before. I don't know if I'd use the word hardcore for anyone still using the factory PCM anyway though.
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Not sure about Ford PCMs, but the newer (200+) GM PCMs are extremely robust and people are consistently running tuning for 1000+whp cars on them with no problem.
 
What you need is an SCT Xcal2 along with the Pro Racer Package and the NGK AFX wideband with upgraded NTK sensor, which is more durable than the Bosch unit in harsh environments like if you plan to use leaded race fuel.

The AFX is superior to anything short of lab quality equipment. Its got a low cost version of the electronics found in the much more expensive AFM1000 manufactured by ECM. Been found more accurate than its competition in any serious comparison...
 
DocStruthers said:
:nonono: just shut the f*ck up. Seriously. You don't get it.
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jesus kid. Way to overreact. Go get laid or smoke a bowl or something.

I just told you that even if you didnt use the gauge, it is cool and you should get em anyways. WTF is up with your response to that? Are you that insecure that you have to start whining and cussing when anyone even suggests that there is even the slim possibility that you might not use something, but it is still cool anyways?

So if I bought a big lifted jeep and someone commented to me that it is gonna suck on road where I will be most of the time, should I react by telling them that they dont know anything, to shut the F@#$ up, to delete their accounts, and that they get the wrong ideas a lot?

I told you that it wont be useful that often to you, but they are cool and you should get one anyways. Get over it. Seriously, are you rebuilding your engine or making big changes to your forced induction system on a weekly basis? Are you making frequent and or constant modifications that will make your car so different that your ECU cannot compensate? Do you really think that you are making modifications where the money you are going to spend on the wideband is going to be justified in the difference in peak horsepower you can attain IF you learn enough about tuning to be able to do anything about it anyways?
 
ok I'm not trying to spend over $1K on all that. I just want a good wideband kit for 250-350. One I can use with a Apex AFC neo unit. The neo seems to be the best bet.
 
FIND said:
jesus kid. Way to overreact. Go get laid or smoke a bowl or something.

I just told you that even if you didnt use the gauge, it is cool and you should get em anyways. WTF is up with your response to that? Are you that insecure that you have to start whining and cussing when anyone even suggests that there is even the slim possibility that you might not use something, but it is still cool anyways?

So if I bought a big lifted jeep and someone commented to me that it is gonna suck on road where I will be most of the time, should I react by telling them that they dont know anything, to shut the F@#$ up, to delete their accounts, and that they get the wrong ideas a lot?

I told you that it wont be useful that often to you, but they are cool and you should get one anyways. Get over it. Seriously, are you rebuilding your engine or making big changes to your forced induction system on a weekly basis? Are you making frequent and or constant modifications that will make your car so different that your ECU cannot compensate? Do you really think that you are making modifications where the money you are going to spend on the wideband is going to be justified in the difference in peak horsepower you can attain IF you learn enough about tuning to be able to do anything about it anyways?
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Shut the f*ck up already! Go barf up all your negative nonsense on someone else's thread. Idiot.
 
Oh God please no. I don't want an infraction. :cry:

Just close this thread. I had my questions answered.

Thanks.
 
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