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No AC\fans???

TK95Contour

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I own a 95 contour se v6 mtx.. i have a problem getting both fans to come on when the controls are set to ac.. i get no clutch engagement and no fan at all..just replaced cooling harness but to no help..i can jump the ac relay and get the clutch to engage
 
Not sure.. i was under the impression that if it wasnt charged it wouldnt engage when jumped? i dont have access to gauges , or experiance with ac components..
 
the clutch will engage even if it is empty if you jump the relay. The relay is switched on by the thermostat and the pressure switch.

If you dont have experience with AC or tools, leave it to the professionals. Take it to an AC shop or a buddy with experience, I hate to give you an answer that could possibly end up expensive, but you cant really do much with it if you dont know what you are doing and dont have a manifold and gauges.
 
welcome sometimes the bearings seize in the fan motors on these cars I had to replace mine last year also the fan shroud has a few sensors on it good luck
 
Is it very expensive to have it charged/checked? do the fan motors cost much? i was gona pay to have the main harness installed but if i get the ac fixed first i can hold off on the harness...
 
Is it very expensive to have it charged/checked? do the fan motors cost much? i was gona pay to have the main harness installed but if i get the ac fixed first i can hold off on the harness...
Pick up one of those Interdynamics charging kits from Autozone or Advance Auto. $39. Two cans, pressure gauge and UV flashlight to locate leaks (if any). That should let you know if the refrigerant is low.
 
If the leak is pinhole, you should be able to put in some refrigerant to get it going. If it is major, you probably need a shop to help you diagnose/fix the problem.

As previously posted, if you are not too sure about your mechanical skills, send the car to a shop. They probably charge $100 for a diagnostic and maybe another $150 to recharge it (if it is not leaking). If they have to change the parts, then the price will go up.
 
Can anybody give me a list of parts related to ac and fans that commonly fail and need to be replaced? id like to be able to go through and check all i can myself. ive worked on cars my whole life although most on v8 carbd car ,not so much on efi. thanks!
 
being able to work on a car and being able to work on A/C are two completely different animals.

Honestly, there may be nothing wrong with your car aside from being low on refrigerant. While the o-rings that seal the lines sometimes go bad, the answer may even be more simple than that. Modern cars use R-134A. This type of refrigerant is better for the environment than older R-12, but it comes with it's own set of problems. R-134A has a smaller molecular structure, so it is more likely to leak out than R-12, especially during the winter when parts get cold and shrink, such as o-rings. If your car sits a lot, then your A/C wont run at all during the winter, and I cant remember off the top of my head whether a 95 contour will run the A/C while you run the defroster. Newer cars run A/C while running the defroster to help reduce humidity, also circulating the refrigerant helps lubricate the parts since there is oil in the refrigerant. Now, like I was saying before, R-134A leaking out past seals and o-rings, even in a well maintained or new system is very common, even on a car with everything working properly, it doesnt hurt to charge your A/C every few years.

But I do have to go back to another point. You can buy a kit from the parts store to help charge your A/C or at least test it, but generally if your system is low enough that it wont turn on the compressor, you wont be able to charge it with one of those kits. You will want to draw a vacuum on the system so that you can get the air out and get the refrigerant in.

Please understand that noone is questioning your mechanical ability, just A/C systems are very different from working on engine parts. They are also not something you could usually diagnose without knowing a lot about how A/C systems work. I have been working on cars for a lot of years, and do know a bit about A/C but honestly, I would still leave a lot of stuff to my dad when it comes to that, cause he specializes in heating and refridgeration. Its always better to take that kind of thing to a professional, I hate to tell you to spend a bunch of money, but if you dont know A/C systems, you shouldnt mess around with them, because they are not a user servicable part. There are reasons why A/C shops have the manifold sets, the reclaimers, vacuum pumps, gauges, and other things, there are also reasons why guys who do A/C have their own set of certifications and training courses.
 
Well the guy i bought the car from said it sit for 3 or so years while he was overseas so it must have slowly leaked out. Ill probably take it to a shop and have it charged and checked for links. thanks a lot guys for all the info and help..
 
I have a set of dual fans from one of my '98 Contour SVT's if it comes down to that. I'd sell them cheap - $30 + shipping. See if the other stuff is the problem first. I don' think these are easy to pull out or change with the motor in the car.
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is there any way to check fan motors and/or sensors, switches, wiring ect? and ive also read about an extra purple wire and jumper harness that has to be replaced after changing cooling harness? thanks again for all help and info!
 
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