Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
That depends on the brand though. Some of the UOAs have come back very close to their synthetic siblings and others look worn out like their cheaper conventional brothers.
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Full vs Part Synthetic
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That depends on the brand though. Some of the UOAs have come back very close to their synthetic siblings and others look worn out like their cheaper conventional brothers.
http://www.molyslip.com/Products/MolySlipE.html ..try quoting the whole passage. Obviously you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink...G.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Quoting the whole page wouldnt change the fact that moly is an unneeded additive regardless of what you read somewhere on the internet. I tried leading you to water by telling you to get the facts over on BITOG but I guess you didnt drink either. 
98csvt69
CEG'er
I use mobile1 5w-30 synthetic on my 98svt and i have 179,000 miles on it.... i change it every 3000 miles cuz i wont take a chance on that high mileaged of a motor and it barely even gets dirty.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/moly.htmlQuoting the whole page wouldnt change the fact that moly is an unneeded additive regardless of what you read somewhere on the internet. I tried leading you to water by telling you to get the facts over on BITOG but I guess you didnt drink either.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
I'd go at least 5000 miles (Mobil 1 can do 10,000 easy). A used oil analysis would show plenty of life left after 3000 or 5000 miles.
I didnt need a definition of what Moly is. I'm just asking why you think you need it to todays motor oil when your owners manual, oil companies and folks on BITOG will almost all agree its not needed and in some cases can be a bad thing.
Big Jim
Hard-core CEG'er
Among the discussions at bobistheoilguy over the last few months was a discussion on Moly. IIRC, most of the Moly used in aftermarket additives is of a form that doesn't stay in suspension.
Some of the guys there really go after Moly additives. One of the favorites seems to be the discontinued VSOT (Valvoline Synpower Oil Treatment or something like that). Those that use it seem to like adding just a few ounces at oil change time. Another favorite is SLOB (Street Legal Oil Boost or something like that and I don't remember the brand). SLOB seems to be high in Zinc (ZDDP) and I think it may have some Moly as well. Torco has just introduced a break-in additive that is also high in either Moly or ZDDP or both.
My preference though is to let the tribologists (oil lubrication engineers) figure out the additive balance and not mess around with it. If you want oils that are higher in those anti-wear additives, look for diesel oil that also carries an automotive rating. This is still a compromise. Something has to be given up for the added benefits.
Also, I just saw something about the next iteration of oil. API rating SN or GF-5 will ratchet up the requirements a few more notches, so much so that the speculation is that at least some Group III base oil will be needed in the blend. Again, moving conventional oil more toward synthetic.
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Yeah some of the guys are nuts about adding ZDDP back into the oil even though no one can find any actual evidence it did anything super special in the first place. Same exact thing with adding moly thats juts gonna sit on the bottom of the oil pan.
you said it yourself..those that have tried it...swear by it...those that haven't, know every reason not to...G.
Big Jim
Hard-core CEG'er
Save yourself a trip to the store and insert a $5.00 bill into your crankcase. The effects will be the same. Your wallet will be lighter. That's just about all that snake oil products really do. To do that, their advertising must seem compelling. Advertising absent of any real scientific information and loaded with "testimonials".
Dyoel182
Addicted CEG'er
Exactly. You can always find people willing to try and then stick with something even though there are no facts saying its doing anything differently. Dont you think one oil company would have already found a way to add moly to their oil and have it actually work like a grease so they could patent it and get a leg up on the competition?