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since this site has shop owners and fabricators as members, maybe we can come up with a better design of a camber plate. One thing I noticed about these cars is how large the strut towers are, has any one ever tried making a camber plate that would in a sense replace the whole tower top. Its hard for me to explain what I'm thinking. Best way I can describe it would be like a larger version of the ground control style, but hat would utilize either a stock rubber mount in the center or even a smaller pillow ball style, say like one from a 98 GTI VR6, or if that's too large maybe a 2001 gti. That way they will be rebuildable and would retain closer to stock feal rather than a spherical ball like the GC plates. Granted they would have to be welded in and I know not everyone is down to cut their strut towers and weld plates in, or possibly bolted pending on design, but I would be down if its improving the adjustments on the car
 
KBSVT said:
since this site has shop owners and fabricators as members, maybe we can come up with a better design of a camber plate. One thing I noticed about these cars is how large the strut towers are, has any one ever tried making a camber plate that would in a sense replace the whole tower top.
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Earlier in the thread.
DanMyers said:
PRT offers a really nice conversion kit to use s13 pillowball upper mounts that allow for camber adjustment on the top but the strut tower has to have the top cut off and the new one welded on AFAIK.
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While the strut tower top is large, the underside design pretty much locks you into using Ford's upper mount, which itself offers no camber or caster adjustment, and the aftermarket alternatives that use an eccentric washer lose enough of the center rubber and compliance that they put a lot of bending stress on the top of the strut piston rod. The underside of the strut towers is some mighty complicated stamped sheet metal designed to mate with the Ford upper mount, and to use anything else there, the whole mess has to be cut off.

I'm an engineer, and have designed suspension bits for several different cars over the years, and once I looked at the Contour strut towers, and seeing no other solution but to cut up and weld on my daily driver, I designed the adapter plates I mentioned earlier in the thread.

There is a such a thing as you mentioned. Start reading here:
http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showt...track-car-build-thread.&p=1005933#post1005933
Scroll down a ways to see them installed.

Josh's design (PRT Autosport) is among the best I've seen, but the cut/weld installation is probably a bit over the top for most owners here.
http://www.prtautosport.com/products--services.html
This conversion uses the Nissan S13 spherical bearing C/C plates from Techno Toy Tuning:
https://technotoytuning.com/nissan/s13/camber-plates-nissan-s13

Josh also supplies an adapter to mate the Ground Control upper spring hats to the S13 spherical bearing.
 
Wow, awesome, I don't know how I missed that. I'm gonna look into this for my car. That's awesome. Pillowball was the wrong terminology for me to use, I was thinking a smaller diameter rubber mount so you change them, I was probably thinking pillow ball after reading stuff on their website.
 
Pillow ball and spherical bearing are used interchangeably, I think the Brits like pillow ball... and warm beer.
 
Warm beer sounds wonderful. Yeah, pillowball style I kinda want to stay away from, mainly cause pa roads suck. Correct me if I'm wrong, but will a pillowball style mount add to harshness. no bumps and potholes on the track.
 
KBSVT said:
Warm beer sounds wonderful. Yeah, pillowball style I kinda want to stay away from, mainly cause pa roads suck. Correct me if I'm wrong, but will a pillowball style mount add to harshness. no bumps and potholes on the track.
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my town has tons of potholes and id have to say that i was surprised how the whole car was barley harsher then stock. you wouldnt even notice if you've never been in my car before
 
aboythatskates said:
my town has tons of potholes and id have to say that i was surprised how the whole car was barley harsher then stock. you wouldnt even notice if you've never been in my car before
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Good to know. Has there been any camber issues with the bat kit, I kinda don't like the way the bat kit sits which is why I was looking into coilovers
 
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