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Another Alternator Issue

Xantheon

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I have a '99 Cougar. When I got it, it came with an engine and transmission and accessories from my friend's Cougar (gamiller on NECO) that had no warning lights. When the drivetrain was installed in this one, I got a battery light at high RPMs. I replaced the alt. with a rebuilt one and the light was then on *all* the time. Great! Now what? So, I tested it. It read 14.2 volts at the peak and even when idling, so I assumed it was O.K. but I was getting the classic pulsing problem at the same frequency under all conditioans at all RPMS. What might be a factor is that the pulley on the new alt. was smaller than the one on the older alt. I am assuking that the old alt. had a stock pulley on it. Well, that rebuilt alt. literally fried this past week. I tested the voltage and got 12.23 with the car off and 11.68 with it running, which indicated the alternator was dead and the car was running entirely off of the battery. I just pulled it and got it replaced under warranty Sunday and did "the big three" with 2-gauge wire as well as a breaker instead of the megafuse. Everything runs fine at idle and below 5K RPM, but, at approx 5500 the battery light starts to blink and is on solid by 6000. I am assuming that, first, I need to get the stock sized pulley back on there and that, second, maybe the rebuilds from this place (Advance) could also be the issue. I understand that Ford used to have the alternators rebuilt by a certain company (I don't know which) and they frequently had issues at high RPMs and subsequently they switched to another company for their rebuilds. I could keep going back for replacements under warranty until I end up with one that works (which many on NECO have done), but that's a pain. Anyone out there had this same issue and fixed it in a different way? I know most say this is the sign of a dead alternator, but, it's a fresh rebuild, which does not count that out, but, given the pulley size difference, I am figuring that if it makes the right voltages at say 5500 or so, then a reduction of rotation of maybe 20-30% would clear up the issues. I am wondering if that is the difference between the pulley that was on (stock?) there vs. what is on there now(smaller)... Also, are some cars more sensitive to the signal from alternator than others? If so, is there a way to adjust or address that? Does anyone know of other compatible pulleys that can be used? I'd rather just drop the alt. speed a bit (under-drive) and leave water pump and AC the same for proper cooling and cold AC when summer comes back around. I've seen a posting for an under-drive set of pulleys (P/S and alt) on NECO, but that's kinda pricey.

At this point, I am inclined to get a larger (possibly just stock) pulley on there and, if that's not enough, get a bigger one or resort to an under-drive crank pulley. I mean, there's no killer stereo in there and if it's othewise keeping the battery (BTW, also new) charged, I figure it can't hurt to slow it down a bit and make it last longer.

Any suggestions and input welcome!

Thanks!
 
Welcome. Assuming you have a V6, two additional things to try. The wiring fix and a Ford remanufactured alternator. If you have an I-4, I think you should be fine with the wiring. The aftermarket alternators have been hit or miss for some CEGers.

Always post mileage, engine and year when requesting for help.

http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?t=3535
 
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Sorry about that

Sorry about that

Thanks for the reply! Sorry, I forgot the enigne and miles. You are correct, it's a V6 and has about 16XK miles on it. To sum up, this is a new battery, 3rd alternator (on this driveline) for this car. Actually, who knows how many it had gone through on the previous engine. Also, the engine currently in there has seen a few alternators mated up to it prior to the transplant into this car.

Anyway, I did the re-wire per the TSB as part of "the big three".

At this point, I feel confident the pulley size is the issue. Anyone got a stock V6 alt. pulley they want to get rid of? Otherwise, I was wondering if, given the frequency of the alternator failures on these cars, anyone had found part numbers for compatible pulleys with larger diameters. Anyone know the spec on the stock one?

Thanks again...
 
Get yourself a Ford remanufactured. These rebuilts thru parts stiores may be cheaper, but my feeling is they use inferior parts as in the regulators etc.
 
pulley

pulley

I just changed my alt on the 2.5 about three months ago and yes the pulley on the reman was smaller. I left it on there and I have no problems with it. But it makes sense if its spinning the alt faster then it can handle, for it to have problems
 
I agree with others on this forum who have pointed out that many of the aftermarket alternators have had problems due to inferior quality. Of course, I'm also somewhat known for beating the drum about Ford parts, and I do believe that you should go with a Ford unit in this case. To isolate all variables, I'd go with the stock pulley, too -- I think you're smart to be looking in that direction.
 
Auto zone and advanced Discount ALT SUCK..The 2 ive used i had problems with..Switched to a Ford OEM and problems went BYEBYE..
Ford OEM FTW
 
I used a new bosh alt in my 98 svt and had no problems and that been abt 1 year and 20k miles.

There are a ton of tsb's for charging system concerns for the 2.5 engine's.
 
I used a new bosh alt in my 98 svt and had no problems and that been abt 1 year and 20k miles.

There are a ton of tsb's for charging system concerns for the 2.5 engine's.

Bosch? Do you have the model number, place you got it, and $$$ please?
I will have my ALT replaced this coming Sunday. I'd love to know my options.

TIA!
 
when it comes to alternators its best to spend the extra money and get a Ford reman unit, I had a 100% new autolite one not work correctly.

now its possible that the smaller pulley is causing a problem but my feeling is that it isn't. If the battery light came on from the beginning then its the rebuilt alternator that isn't up to par.
 
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