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Harrry

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Okay i got my heated mirrors today. My concern is there are 5 wires.

I understand that there are 3 wires already present in my mirrors.

1 Power wire
2 Ground
3 Mirror control unit

Now the new harness has 5 wires. The above 3

4. Defroster switch
5. ???? what could this go to ????

Is there a how-to already for this?? install


Has anyone done this conversion?
Does anyone know the wire code colors for what goes to what?
 
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After reading for 2 hours, nobody has done a conversion from a 3 pin setup to a 5 pin. The 5 pin was already there for them.

I believe it was csvt1214 who mentioned he took 2 from a junkyard. He never wrote back with his final results. If he even did install them.

Only thing i found that was valuable that i needed was this.


You need a 7.5 Amp fuse in slot 19.
 
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Harrry said:
Okay i got my heated mirrors today. My concern is there are 5 wires.

I understand that there are 3 wires already present in my mirrors.

1 Power wire
2 Ground
3 Mirror control unit

Now the new harness has 5 wires. The above 3

4. Defroster switch
5. ???? what could this go to ????

Is there a how-to already for this?? install


Has anyone done this conversion?
Does anyone know the wire code colors for what goes to what?
Click to expand...

Black is ground for Heater element.
Violet/Orange is Power for Heater element (to Fuse 19).

Left Door (Driver) Mirror
White/Red for up/down, becomes White/Black to Door mirror control switch
White/Blue for left/right, becomes White/Violet to Door mirror control switch
Yellow goes to Yellow/Green, continues to Splice 3, splits (1) Yellow/Red to Door mirror control switch (2) Yellow goes to Yellow/Green and then to Right Door Mirror.

Right Door (Passenger) Mirror
Yellow/Green to Yellow to Splice 3.
White/Violet for left/right to White/Blue to Door mirror control switch.
White/Black for up/down to White/Red to Door mirror control switch.

Door mirror control switch Orange/Yellow to Fuse 34. Black to ground

A little confusing but hope that helps.
 
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i Have

The passenger heated right side mirror is...


Green
Purple
Black
Black
Black


The driver side heated mirror is...
Red
Blue
Black
Black
Black
 
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Driver side current 3 wire

White with red stripe
White with blue stripe
Yellow wire

Passenger side current 3 wire
Yellow with green stripe
White wire with black stripe
White wire with purple stripe.


It seems my wires are different color coded. hmmm
 
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Yes, that was me that took them from the junkyard. I have not installed mine yet because I don't have the wiring there and don't have the time to figure out how to install it.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and see what happens with yours. Sorry for not being any help.
 
Going off this:
Tony2005 said:
Left Door (Driver) Mirror
  • White/Red
    • up/down (becomes White/Black on car side of connector)
  • White/Blue
    • left/right (becomes White/Violet on car side of connector)
  • Yellow
    • Some mumbo-jumbo stuff you are not concerned with!
  • Black
    • Ground for heater element
  • Violet/Orange
    • +12V for heater element from Fuse 19
Right Door (Passenger) Mirror
  • Yellow/Green
    • Some mumbo-jumbo stuff you are not concerned with!
  • White/Violet
    • left/right (becomes White/Blue on car side of connector)
  • White/Black
    • up/down (becomes White/Red on car side of connector)
  • Black
    • Ground for heater element
  • Violet/Orange
    • +12V for heater element from Fuse 19
Door mirror control switch Orange/Yellow to Fuse 34. Black to ground
Click to expand...

Your currently installed mirrors are identical to what he posted... now armed with that information, let's tackle your heated mirrors.

What does your car's connector look like? Does it physically plug into the heated mirrors, but only has 3 wires?

If that was a YES, then I'd use an educated guess and say that the mirrors probly operate now, just need to wire up the other 2 wires to +12V and ground.

If that was a NO, then you'll have to use judgment and wire it up. See what happens when you start hooking stuff up. I highly doubt you can screw this up.

Just start randomly connecting the 3 wires, matching colors wherever possible, and try the switch out. See if it moves properly. If it doesn't move properly (like doesn't move at all, goes L/R when you moved it U/D, you need to swap at least 2 wires).

With my limited knowledge (only what has been posted in this thread), I've come up with this for you to try out first.

Just don't hook up the +12V from fuse 19 yet... that could screw up the motor! Just play around with the 3 wires your car has until you figure out which ones are controlling the mirror... Then by process of elimination, the last 2 have to be for the heating element.

Harrry said:
Driver side:
  • Red
    • coincides with white/red above!
    • up/down (becomes White/Black on car side of connector)
  • Blue
    • coincides with white/blue above!
    • left/right (becomes White/Violet on car side of connector)
  • Black
    • gonna guess this coincides with the yellow wire above...
    • Some mumbo-jumbo stuff you are not concerned with!
  • Black
    • +12V from fuse 19 -or- Ground (think it matters, just a heating element!)
  • Black
    • Ground -or- +12V from fuse 19 (think it matters, just a heating element!)
Passenger side:
  • Green
    • Seems to coincide with the Yellow/Green above
    • Some mumbo-jumbo stuff you are not concerned with!
  • Purple
    • Probly coincides with White/Black (or maybe the White/blue on the car side)
    • left/right (becomes White/Blue on car side of connector)
  • Black
    • Probly coincides with White/Purple above
    • up/down (becomes White/Red on car side of connector)
  • Black
    • +12V from fuse 19 -or- Ground (think it matters, just a heating element!)
  • Black
    • +12V from fuse 19 -or- Ground (think it matters, just a heating element!)
Click to expand...
Of course, I could be steering you wrong, and if you go playing around could destroy the mirror and/or your switch!
 
i have been looking at doing hta, i jsut got my car back from stazi's the other day. So i have been enjoying my headers. :).


The current 3 wires must be spliced and the current 5 wires on hte heate mirrors must be spliced. that being said. i want to make sure i don';t hook it up to the wrong black wire.

I will try this when i ahve more time. I also want some one with a 1995 contour 5 plug to check out what goes to what for me. Get a light tester out there and find which has power for mirror and heater.
 
did a check last night

---Wire color controls---

Yellow = Left and down

Red stripe = Up

Blue stripe = Right

so tony wire explanation is incorrect or is ran different.

I will be toying with the install this weekend when i ahve more time.

I def will be doing a how-to on this :)
 
Heated mirrors opt install

Heated mirrors opt install

Howdy,
I am sure you got this all figured out by now, but I have just gone through this along wiht some other electrical upgrades to my wiring. IF you have the option to go to a junk yard and find the five pin connectors then do that and cut off the pigtail as long as you can. What I did was replace the whole door wiring harness, BTW do you have power windows? If so then when you replace the door wiring harness and connect the twist connector at the body your most likely done with it. They run off your rear defroster button so push the button and test for power using a meter or light probe at the mirror connector. On your non heated connector the three wires are in a row on the bottom the two top positions are for the heating element.

If you dont have the power windows then you have a choice to get the wires and add them to the twist connectors connectors not that big of a deal as long as you position the additions correctly. again I would just replace the door harness then add the pins to the body connector. That is a bit of a PIA to do but possible then run the wire to the switch and a ground. The wire at the switch is already connected to the fuse and can be tapped or add the pin into the connector. This all assumes that you can get the pins to add. I did this by taking them from the connectors and noting their location.

Lastly doing it the butcher way you can get a pigtail with the connector and the 5 wires, cut your connector off and splice it in to the exsiting three wires then add a length of wire to the other two wires for the heating, drill a hole in the rubber gromet in the door for the wiring harness poke the wires through tape them to the existing wire guide, drill a hole in the body Tape them with several wraps at the point of going through the hole and fill it with silicone. Then run one to a ground and the other to the switched wire from the rear window defroster. and your good to go. I'd splice both hot wires from the mirrors together then have only one tap to the switched wite. The fuse is already there and the correct size for the load.

I always try to add wires to the harnesses rather than splicing them in. I also try to at least on the end of a wire use a piece of the correct color at the connectors then if needed solder splice in a runner for the length I need.
That's just my preference.

regards & good luck,
My 2 cents
 
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