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  • 3L Port matched vs 3L Hybrid

    Who will win? I have a 3L Hybrid. shanes98csvt has a port matched.

    List of mods

    Mine
    2000 CSVT
    03 Ford Escape 3L (untuned)
    02 Cougar heads
    SVT cams
    19lb injectors
    MSDS y pipe
    gutted main cast (stock precats)
    AEM short ram intake
    Optimized TB
    Eibach front springs, stock rear springs, stock style struts
    Stock diff/FD
    215/50R16's Dunlop Direzza DZ101's


    Shanes
    1998 CSVT
    05 Sable 3L port matched
    SVT cams
    24lb injectors
    gutted pre cats
    Optimized Y pipe
    high flow cat
    short ram intake
    Optimized TB
    Nautilus tune
    BAT Euro kit
    Stock Diff/FD
    Not sure on tires...

    We are going to the track March 31st if all goes according to plan.
    13
    Mark's 2000 CSVT 3L Hybrid
    15.38%
    2
    Shane's 1998 CSVT 3L Port Matched
    84.62%
    11
    00 Contour SVT #1914 BLK/PT
    3L Hybrid, cam regrinds, MSDS, Quaife, NPG CAI, 17x7.5 MSR wheels, Hankook RS3 245/40s, D2s, tubular rear toe arms, BAT rear sway bar, 13" Cobra front brakes, 300mm FSVT rear brakes, CF Evo hood, Mirko. 2900lbs. 213whp/179wtq

  • #2
    Who knows, gotta be a drivers race id guess. Curious to see what you guys run though, good luck man.
    2000 Silver Frost- 1349
    3L Portmatched--NPG CAI--65MM TB-Weapon R Headers-Weapon R Y Pipe--Trubendz Decat Pipe/Flex Pipe--2.5 Trubendz Custom Catback--D2 Coilovers

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    • #3
      You really ought to consider getting a tune to compensate for the increase in compression ratio with a hybrid set up, or at least a wideband O2 to monitor what's going on.
      Sold- 98.5 Silver Frost #5979 :(
      Officially a troll. 2002 Suzuka Blue Honda S2000 on Works

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      • #4
        is your csvt tuned?

        its also not about just the engine. all 3ls tend to be alike. tires, suspenstion, drivetrain, all play a great role in strip times, u havent listed any of them that the cars have
        1999 Mercury Cougar Full 3.0L MTX
        236HP

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        • #5
          Edited the info above. My car is still running the stock SVT tune and runs damn near perfect. I do want to get it tuned first, but after i get my rust hole repaired.
          00 Contour SVT #1914 BLK/PT
          3L Hybrid, cam regrinds, MSDS, Quaife, NPG CAI, 17x7.5 MSR wheels, Hankook RS3 245/40s, D2s, tubular rear toe arms, BAT rear sway bar, 13" Cobra front brakes, 300mm FSVT rear brakes, CF Evo hood, Mirko. 2900lbs. 213whp/179wtq

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          • #6
            Well in my opinion you guys are both crazy for taking your cars to the track on a stock differential. I can't really pick because I don't know either of you personally but based off of the cars mods I would say Shane might have the edge since his has been tuned.
            -99 E1 Black/MNB #1974 stock DD
            -98 E0 Black/MNB #0812 3L sold
            -98 E0 T-Red/MNB #0322 sold

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            • #7
              Not that crazy. If i blow mine, then i have a reason to throw a Torsen in it.
              00 Contour SVT #1914 BLK/PT
              3L Hybrid, cam regrinds, MSDS, Quaife, NPG CAI, 17x7.5 MSR wheels, Hankook RS3 245/40s, D2s, tubular rear toe arms, BAT rear sway bar, 13" Cobra front brakes, 300mm FSVT rear brakes, CF Evo hood, Mirko. 2900lbs. 213whp/179wtq

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 95_Mystique View Post
                Not that crazy. If i blow mine, then i have a reason to throw a Torsen in it.
                If you want a Torsen, you better buy one of the last few remaining units available because they are no longer made for the MTX-75 transaxle.
                Mr. Spindlelegs
                1999 Black SVT #1658 of 2760
                2014 Scion FR-S Monogram Series

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                • #9
                  oh yea shanes gonna win then for sure...his is tuned. unless he rlly sucks at driving. a tune is a night and day difference no joke

                  just for fun il guess.
                  you: 14.9
                  shane: 14.5
                  1999 Mercury Cougar Full 3.0L MTX
                  236HP

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                  • #10
                    im taking sand bags for marks car to compensate for weight difference
                    98 silfro svt #129 port matched 3l, OBX SS headers and y-pipe, Optimized tb, short ram intake, BAT euro handling kit, hi flow cat,2.5 in ss catback with borla muffler,Exedy stage 2 clutch,tuned .....more to come
                    200hp/175tq

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                    • #11
                      You're both going to blow your diffs and no one will win.
                      *CLICK HERE ---> 1995 SE 3L WITH MATCHING TRAILER <--- CLICK HERE*
                      30 Contour / Mystiques and counting......

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                      • #12
                        Shane has more air, more fuel, and a tune..... he SHOULD win.


                        Maybe has you by about 20hp, so it could come down to driver.
                        *CLICK HERE ---> 1995 SE 3L WITH MATCHING TRAILER <--- CLICK HERE*
                        30 Contour / Mystiques and counting......

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                        • #13
                          TOW TRUCK DRIVER WINS after you blow up your stock diffs. NO HEADERS?? An optimized stock y pipe, the bent worse than a pretzel MSDS y pipe, one high flo cat, gutted precats and no OTHER exhaust mods? You're both leaving untapped HP at home!! And once you get better diffs, and more HP, you still might need some stickier tires and then be ready for replacing a broken half axle. If I had my rig up to date on tired parts needing replacement, I'd want to know how much handicap you'd give a mere 2.5L...
                          MSDS, SHO-shop Y, 2.5" catback; xcal2; 63mm TB, K&N 3530, pud heatshield; Koni struts, Aussie bar; THMS forks, Quaife; DMD; UD pullies; 94A poly mnts. 92.03 trap speed. SF/MB '98 SVT E0 #3159 8/21/97 236K miles. Was a witch's ashtray

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                          • #14
                            wow, guys. no offence. but noone wants to keep listening about the stupid difs.
                            i abused mine at the track a couple times and i have no problems but yes...it might happen. it doesnt mean that it will brake for sure, nor last me another 50k miles. while they're also not stupid and know the risks of driving on the stock dif
                            1999 Mercury Cougar Full 3.0L MTX
                            236HP

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                            • #15
                              i do know the risks of goin to the track on the stock diff. I use to take my zx2 to the track and the diffs are weaker. ive launched that at 4000rpm. if it breaks ill just have to repair it.
                              98 silfro svt #129 port matched 3l, OBX SS headers and y-pipe, Optimized tb, short ram intake, BAT euro handling kit, hi flow cat,2.5 in ss catback with borla muffler,Exedy stage 2 clutch,tuned .....more to come
                              200hp/175tq

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