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#975606 06/15/04 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
hmm...the part number on my receipt for my svt uim is 1S8Z9424AA. what gives?




That's the part number I found on Signature L/M and posted up a little farther, with prices.

If there is no difference, then why such a huge price discrepency? There must be some difference there, but what?


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ok, i didnt see that you already posted that.

I bought from Downs Ford a few years ago during a SVT UIM and TB group buy.

List was $725.87 for the UIM alone.
Of course, the group buy price was $323.40 for the UIM. Not bad.


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#975608 06/15/04 08:16 PM
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im sorry kids....reading this whole post has made me realize what type of people are in this forum..i dont know whether everyone thinks that they have the biggest nuts out there...or if some of you are more like those star wars nerds that think the $hit actually happened. If you want to go very fast and handle like its nobody's business, then I highly suggest buying a supersport class motorcycle. 0-60 in less than 2 sometimes 2.5 seconds...9-10 second quarters, a top speed of 165-185+ mph, and all the handling you want and adjustability in the world...guys, i just dont get it....its a dead vehicle in the US. and the ST220 is more like a jag X-type than what we have. Ford didnt like the results of the introduction and im sorry to say, they de-engineered the contour to a lower grade of quality by comparison. So to think that a highly modded 'tour is only capable of 13.94 in the quarter is kinda sad, especially when i see how much the work really costs to do and be reliable....now...demon may have the fastest tour out there. but how much was it? and could someone more easliy spent 9k on a motorcycle and be in the 10's.

someone just explain the lack of rationality here.

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What right do you have to criticize people who enjoy modding their car as a hobby? Regardless of cost?

I guess all the F-body owners should quit modding since their platform is dead? Maybe the Merkur owners, too? And the CRX owners, too? "Hey, the car is discontinued so let's stop modding and buy a crotch rocket!!"

And who exactly are you calling "kids" and "star wars nerds"?

Head back to middle school, "learn yourself some English" and come back when your post doesn't have to be deciphered.

You obviously don't have the balls to post where you live, so you must be one of those "internet tough guys". OOOHHH, I'M SCARED.

I've read your other idiotic posts - like the turbo one - where you spout incoherent babble and pretend to know what you are talking about. .

Do us all a favor and go play in traffic kid.


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dude, you're a douchebag. (not you svt st pete, the noob talking internet sh;t)

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Originally posted by svtstreetracer:
now...demon may have the fastest tour out there. but how much was it? and could someone more easliy spent 9k on a motorcycle and be in the 10's.

someone just explain the lack of rationality here.




We can carry 4 other people with us & all stay dry if it rains.

Try driving from West Palm Beach, Florida to Madawaska, Maine on a sportbike & you'll understand...

It's not all about the performance, it's the total package.


Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Actually I just think you explained the lack of rationality yourself! How in the heck can you compare a motorcycle and a car? Thats like me saying a bike is slow to a fighter jet plane. Apples to apples please.


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Guys do a search on his former posts. He only comes on here for these big argument threads, and then spouts a crappy tirade about why the contour is such a horrible car.

He's a troll who has no logical arguments to make, NO grammar skills and is just posting flamebait for you guys.

Maybe someone could ban him?

#975614 06/15/04 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by svtstreetracer:
So to think that a highly modded 'tour is only capable of 13.94 in the quarter is kinda sad, especially when i see how much the work really costs to do and be reliable.




So why are YOU calling yourself "svtstreetracer" instead of "svtstreetloser" or just "loser" for short?


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For you guys that are sending in SE UIM's. I talked to Rick at Extrude Hone Monday for a good bit. I was going to send in a SE UIM and keep my '00 SVT UIM on the car so I wanted to clear up some confusion I had.

The process is set by attaching metal plates with fixed dia. holes (dia. will not change in process) over all "in" and "out" openings. The abrasive paste is then pumped through the openings until the desired CFM is achieved...in our case approx. 193 CFM. This process was performed on a SVT manifold (don't know what year) that started with a flow of approx 172 CFM. The process is then programmed into the computer (time duration) and is then run on each manifold. This is what they did on the original manifolds in '98-'00 with very repeatable results (well within tolerance). Now for the SE manifolds they will have to do this again but will run much longer to get the 193 CFM and will generate a separate program for the SE UIM. The SE UIM will need to have the ports opened up a good bit mostly on the TB side. This will more than likely have to be done by the customer? Rick seemed to think that "Port Matching" would solve any issues between the two. My only concern was there did not look to be enough material to open up the throttle body opening for the 60 mm SVT TB. Plus the openings are flipped between the SVT and the SE...you will see in the pic's. and may create some possible leaks?

Below are some pic's of my '00 SVT UIM vs. SE UIM and some of the issues between the two.

'00 SVT UIM vs. SE UIM EGR passage flipped and different(on the top for SVT and on the bottom for SE)


SVT TB will not line up properly...may be a potential for a leak?

Front


Back


Difference in TB openings '00 SVT vs. SE...is there enough material to open it up to the 60mm SVT TB ?

'00 SVT TB opening 2.610"


SE TB opening 2.228"


Dif. from SVT to SE on TB opening


'00 SVT UIM Primary and Secondary ports vs. SE UIM Primary and Secondary ports

SVT


SE


SVT Pri. Port 2.200"


SE Pri. Port 1.076"


Dif. from SVT to SE


SVT Sec. Port 2.270"


SE Sec. Port 2.220"


Dif. from SVT to SE...not quite as bad as the others.



Here are some of the measurements I took between the two manifolds referenced in the pic's above:

TB opening: SVT 2.610" SE 2.228"
Pri Port: SVT 1.200" SE 1.076"
Sec Port: SVT 1.270" SE 1.220"

Rick also confirmed that all manifolds they did for Ford on the SVT started around 160 CFM and after the EH pass were approximately 172-174 CFM and the pass was not very long to achieve the results. They never did multiple passes on newer '99-'00. He did say there was some casting changes but did not know what or why for sure. The 5 HP gains on the '99-'00 SVT's came from additional Extrude Honing and polishing of the cylinder heads and that the manifold process was the same as in the past (no additional EH).

As you can see my '00 SVT UIM has been removed and the SE UIM is installed on my car for now and my '00 SVT UIM is on it's way to Extrude Hone Corp.

Scott


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