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Boy, oh- boy. I told you nay sayers I was working on the actual specs which define the M602 and M605. I will pdf the rev levels to show the prints are in fact different. Regardless look at the p/n's and CAD files - the are not the same. And as far as this not proving nothing, where is proof there are dual hone UIM - other just because we know it????

Again, using deducitve logic, the supposed 99+ are the Dual hone, however the 99 has M602 spec while 98 and 2000 has the M605 spec.


Lastly, if you experts are that hard up to nail me, give Rick Miller a call at EH, 800-613-1065. He will verify what I have said from the begining.

It is pretty sad to have this board in such a combative atmmosphere when people do not agree with said experts.....

Here are the Rev Pages.

The biggest thing I noticed here is that the 2000 UIM Approval Date is late July of 2000. I'm guessing that SVTs were not being built by then.

Maybe they decided to return to the 98 style for financial reasons after the last SVT came off the assembly line? I know they are required to make replacement parts for a period of xx years after the last one is built, so by reverting back to the old part number they wouldn't have to make the 99+ UIM? Maybe this explains the high price?

1998 Print Rev
1999 Print Rev
2000 Print Rev

Guys, lets keep this civil and see what information he has. He must have something as he is providing Ford documents.

Hey Guys,

Just got this from Jeff as well. It was originally a LVP (Lucent Voice Player) format, and I converted it to a WAV. Its a voicemail from Rick Miller.

I don't know anything about EH, so I don't know who Rick is, but I thought I'd post it for you guys. Eitherway, its interesting. I'd like to hear what you guys think about it.

Rick Miller Voicemail

WOW! Awful quite all of a sudden. I wonder why???? I guess the 50 post, crack smokingâ??, donâ??t know a thing guy was right after all. What a shame. The proof was in the pudding after all - go figure!! I really find it sad that all of the supposed experts have nothing to say now. I would have a small amount of respect for them if they had a least owned up to being a bit quick to judge, but they must have forgot how to type all of a sudden. Typical hypocrites. Another, in your face, illustration of how one sided this board really is.

I must say, though, I do appreciate the help of Zack. Zack was intelligent enough to listen without jumping the gun. His efforts were instrumental in getting the truth out. Thanks again Zack.

My time and principles are not worth the abuse this board propagates. There comes a point in time when people should start acting like adults and it is clearly evident this board is not capable of doing so. Actually, it reminds me of high school - everyone trying to be the big dog on the porch. It appears some of us are still in that stage of life.

Have fun slamming each other, that is what it is all about��right?????????

Settle down Jeff you're making yourself look like an ass.
Oh and the way I do believe I remember reading somewhere in Ford literature that it was dual extrude honed....Maybe someone can chime in and find it. Oh and by the way anyone can record a voicemail message

Did Rick ever dig up the specs on the 99-00 manifolds? I know it wasn't just jhere on CEG that we read about more extensive EH process - I beleive it is even stated in SVT literature?

I'm curious what feature was different enough on the manifold to warrant a new part number? I know my stock 97 SE manifold TB openeing was VERY different than the TB opening on my 99 "DH" manifold I bought from Bill Jenkins - the EGR ports were on the opposite side, and the overall opening was shaped differently. Not sure if all SVT mani's were like that or if maybe that redesign drove the new P/N

SVTJeff if you have the prints can you see when the TB opening changed?

Also strange that Chris Wong and I think one other (forget who?) dyno'd higher HP with the BAT DH mani's over a stock 98 manifold - although I suppose that could just be the diference of a dirty upper to a brand new clean one.

Also, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist - but any chance EH would mislead us on the specs of the later mani given that they want a LOT of people to send in there manifolds for rework with the current group buy?