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I agree with Brad except for one point.
DO NOT bother paying for any LIM except the returnless LIM. ("returnless" ONLY denotes what engine to find it on - Late 99+ 2.5L)
You are just pissing your money away otherwise!
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Are the actual LIM's different, or just hte injectors and fuel rails different between returnless and return?
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The LIM should be the same. The rails & injector are different. One line for returnless.
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Originally posted by todras:
The LIM should be the same. The rails & injector are different. One line for returnless.
That is true here.
Just to clarify for general knowledge:
95 LIM's are unique to themselves having a vacuum and reverse operation IMRC.
Swapping it out requires fabrication of the IMRC linkage and mounts.
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i have a 98 return sytle fuel rail if ur interestesd i could let it go for 40 shipped. it also comes with 17lbs injectors with less then 20k on them. email me at nossvtcontour@aol.com
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Originally posted by bnoon:
Get a fuel rail from a '98-'99 and a LIM from a '98-'00 2.5L as they will mount up the same. You will have to get creative and extend the fuel rail to meet your car's chassis fuel lines though, just FYI. Make sure to use fuel injection rated hose and connectors, or there will be a big fuel filled ballon popping party under your hood. 
i just "bent" my stock lines a bit and they connect to the new style fuel rail im using!
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by todras:
The LIM should be the same. The rails & injector are different. One line for returnless.
That is true here.
Just to clarify for general knowledge:
95 LIM's are unique to themselves having a vacuum and reverse operation IMRC.
Swapping it out requires fabrication of the IMRC linkage and mounts.
While the SVT LIMs are all the same, the non-SVT LIMs differ from year to year. '98-'99 will have smaller ports (same small ports as your pre '98, but it's a return style with top feed injectors) while the '00 non-SVT (returnless top feed injectors) have the same LIM as the SVT's do. Cougars from late '99 returnless systems also share the larger port LIM. What you want is a '00 non-SVT LIM (because it'll probably be cheaper) and a '98-'99 return style rail from Cougar/SVT/ or non.
http://www.car-part.com
Are you confused yet? 
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Originally posted by bnoon:
1. While the SVT LIMs are all the same, the non-SVT LIMs differ from year to year.[/url]
Are you confused yet?
1. Now you are confused.
Stock LIM (roughly 28mm/30mm) - Diameter never changed
98, 98.5, & early 99 SVT LIM = +2mm (30mm/32mm)
Late 99, 00 SVT, and all returnless = +5mm (33.5mm/35mm)
So all SVT LIM's are not the same.
All stock return LIM's have the same internal diameter.
Also I always tell people to get a 00+ Cougar RLIM because they are the cheapest and easiest to find.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Late 99, 00 SVT, and all returnless = +5mm (33.5mm/35mm)
Ha - just to prove you wrong (how often does that happen?!), I got a lower from a 99 Cougar with a returnless fuel rail, but the lower itself was a 98 mfg'd part and had the smaller ports. Damn emptying out the parts bin!!!!
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Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Late 99, 00 SVT, and all returnless = +5mm (33.5mm/35mm)
Ha - just to prove you wrong (how often does that happen?!), I got a lower from a 99 Cougar with a returnless fuel rail, but the lower itself was a 98 mfg'd part and had the smaller ports. Damn emptying out the parts bin!!!!
heheh... 
You did notice my advice of what RLIM to buy right. 
I specifically left 99's off the list because some folks had that same problem. Definitely emptying the parts bin. 
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