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#935981 04/24/04 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by HITMANinMI:
If you need to repalce the pre-cat it will cost you a ton. If that turns out to be your problem, install MIL eliminators. they make the computer think the cat is working fine so the check engine light wont come on.





I think if you're giving advices like that you should also inform him that doing this is against federal law...

On the other hand, running with plugged exhausts/cats will damage the car on the long run and no MIL eliminator will save you from that.


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check with a reputable ford dealer. last I heard they were having a recall for the cats going bad. beyond the 80k emissions warranty.

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this my be a dumm question but what is mil eliminators?

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Originally posted by Blancas2020:
this my be a dumm question but what is mil eliminators?




Not dumb at all. I guess I should spelled it out for those who dont know. MIL = Malfunction Indicator Light, which is basically the check engine light. Anyways MIL eliminators you place after I think, it may be before, the downstream O2 sensor if your cat goes bad. This makes the computer think the cat is working correctly so you dont get a check engine light. So MIL eliminators eliminate the check engine light.


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OK, been to the dealership and...source of the code was unable to be discovered. Per the service advisor, if the cats were bad, I should be seeing driveability problems (I am not). Oxy sensors were monitored and checked out OK. Since they were unable to successfully diagnose the problem, they discounted the $69 "check engine light diagnosis" to $59. Stay tuned.

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Originally posted by Tom501:
OK, been to the dealership and...source of the code was unable to be discovered. Per the service advisor, if the cats were bad, I should be seeing driveability problems (I am not). Oxy sensors were monitored and checked out OK. Since they were unable to successfully diagnose the problem, they discounted the $69 "check engine light diagnosis" to $59. Stay tuned.




No you dont notice any driveability probelms if your cats are bad I believe.


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Originally posted by HITMANinMI:
No you dont notice any driveability probelms if your cats are bad I believe.



Correct AFAIK... a cat can be operating below spec and still not cause driveability issues. But if you let it go and pretend the problem doesn't exist, it eventually will.


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I took my car to autozone when the CEL came on and I got the same code you have. I called my mechanic and he told me to ignore it because many times it is a fluke. That was 3 weeks ago, the light is still on but the car is running OK. Until this morning...but my new problem is seemingly unrelated. I am going to do some intake cleaning this weekend and see if that does the trick...if not I may try the gutting suggestions since I live in the boonedocks where no-ones car could meet emissions!

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My CSVT is throwing a P0420 code as well and say "catalyst efficiency below threshold." My car only has 45k and the service tech at the Ford dealership told me that it is probably a bad precat and is covered by the 8/80,000 emission warranty. My car runs fine, except I think the fuel pump is also going out because it bucks at 5,000 rpms when I only have 1/4 tank or less.


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I'm pretty sure this link has been pasted before, but it does a great job of explaining things.


http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/catmonitor.htm


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