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#934954 04/22/04 01:26 PM
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i cant see this being worth the money for an SVT

now if you could get a 95 gl with blown engine/tranny for like $200 you could probably build a cheap drag car out of it

making it a daily driver and that can pass inspection/emissions would be a hefty task. and getting it to handle good would be expensive too.


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Originally posted by zaven:
Well with all the words of incuragement i have made some phone calls and looked on ebay and have came to terms that it may cost upwards of $15,000 to do this and i might screw up a good car so im getting a focus for $1500.00 and a install kit for $6000.00 ya i know its not a v8 tour but after listening to some of you i realize their is waaaay to much that involves this contour project and it would take a week of work to do a V8 focus and a lot less money.I have made contact with a guy that ownes one and says he pulls 11's at the track with slicks and 12.4's with streets so i think $7000.00 is well worth it.What do you guys think?




You need alot of work to get to 11s with a V8 Focus. The 302 crate engine that comes with it does make decent numbers. But even a well set up 302 focus is looking at 14s in the 1/4. Dial in more hp and you'll run into traction nightmares. You'll be looking at alot more than the basic kit to hit 11 second quarter mile times.

If you are looking at a V8 Focus anyways, why not just buy a completed car from Kugel? It will cost a little more, sure, but the cost includes a rediculously low premium for the hours of labor that goes into the cars. Likely alot less than you'll pay a shop for the same work. That and you know for sure it was done right since the people that created the kit installed it.

I have to agree with Chris here too. A used LS is such a bargain. Maybe consider that route. I would, but my V8 Focus plans have been in the planning since before I even got the car, it's not just some silly notion that popped into my head.


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Originally posted by CarpePoon:
Thats because the foci was originally designed for AWD. It already has the tranny tunnel that a RWD tranny fits right into, contours don't.




according to Ford Europe´s CEO the first gen Focus is NOT designed for AWD, that´s why there isn´t any Focus AWD available, at least not in Europe and I´ve never seen one in the states either. (are there AWD foci available from Ford in the US?)
the second gen Focus is supposed to have AWD, though.

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Originally posted by RogerB:


Ummmmmm...

http://www.tcf-v8-focus-conversions.com/Mag-Car/photos/photo_60.html

http://www.tcf-v8-focus-conversions.com/Mag-Car/photos/photo_65.html

http://www.tcf-v8-focus-conversions.com/Mag-Car/photos/photo_68.html








Yep, you have to cut that piece out to make a little more room for the GT40 transmission, and a section of the spare tire well needs to be cut so that the rear end can't rub against it when the suspension is under full compression (accelerating) You lose access to your spare tire anyways because of the fuel cell so it's a minor thing.

All of the stock trim pieces, like the center console, go right back in place after the conversion though. Nobody would be able to tell you ever made a cut.


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i bet the first time someone tried to put the 302 in the focus everybody went nuts saying how and why it can't be done. and the r&d on that focus i'm sure cost some money....but now they have a whole kit to use......hmmmm


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All this talk about totally reengineering the Contour for RWD and v8 - and I am wondering why nobody seems to want to tackle an AWD conversion instead? Since the older Mondeo offered AWD and the newer Jag X-type has it, it should be absolutely possible on the Contour which shares the same platform and engine as those two . . . right . . .
Just think of what an AWD Turbo SVT would be capable of ...

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Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
...The fact that the Focus pulled it off was either a fluke, or Ford did at one time contemplate releasing the Cosworth version. The car almost seems built with an allowance for a driveshaft and has plenty of room for a beefy IRS....




They are available in AWD in Europe, so the tunnel and the rear are built to accomodate the setup. The Contour was never intended to be a Rally car or have any other setup than FWD. That RWD proposition seems MUCh more difficult that it would be worth. Buy a frikken RX7 from the late 90's and upgrade the turbo. You will then have a real 10.00 second ET street car and you will have the same money invested. This is coming from the driver/Owner of FrankenFord.



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Originally posted by akrump47:
Just think of what an AWD Turbo SVT would be capable of ...



hhhmmmmmm.......i may just have to become a wealthy man so i can waste money on this idea....


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Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
...The fact that the Focus pulled it off was either a fluke, or Ford did at one time contemplate releasing the Cosworth version. The car almost seems built with an allowance for a driveshaft and has plenty of room for a beefy IRS....




They are available in AWD in Europe, so the tunnel and the rear are built to accomodate the setup. The Contour was never intended to be a Rally car or have any other setup than FWD. That RWD proposition seems MUCh more difficult that it would be worth. Buy a frikken RX7 from the late 90's and upgrade the turbo. You will then have a real 10.00 second ET street car and you will have the same money invested. This is coming from the driver/Owner of FrankenFord.






What about the "4x4" Mondeo's in the great land of Europe?


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