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Originally posted by zgendron:
When you throw out carpet bombing statements like "I hate all gays", it really pisses people off. Some people on this board are probably gay. Its just incredibly ignorant.
This is the thing I had the most problem with. At least one person posting in the thread is openly gay. Why would you say that kind of stuff knowing that to be true??? I can all but guarantee you'd never say this stuff face to face. How do you know that somebody reading this isn't a guy you might run into at a local meet or Spring Zing who is gay??
You're young so you might not know how ignorant you sound, but you're going to deal with gay people EVERY SINGLE DAY for the rest of your life whether you know it or not. Why paint them with the same brush?? I can find people that piss me off from probably every ethnicity or sexual preference or whatever... doesn't mean I hate all of them. Christ, my neighbor's dog annoys the sh*t out of me. Doesn't make me like my dog any less.
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Holy [censored]... Over 160 posts within a couple days.... Is this a record? 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I spread HIV like wildfire.
Ya know, I fcuk gay people.
Too much info
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Ok. In HS a gay kid had a thing for me. I had no clue he was gay, and I was nice to him. Even offered up my vast knowledge of snowboarding and autos. A person I would befriend. Well, he started telling people I was gay and that he was gonna date me and [censored]. I had a gf at the time. Then I get a long ass love letter from him about how we're supposed to be together and sh!t. It sickens me to think of it even today. If I could watch him die and piss on his grave I WOULD! 
Easy, dude, easy.......I realize that was a very uncomfortable experience but he was just one person! That's no excuse to hate all homosexuals! What if you had a bad experience with a girlfriend? Does that mean you are gonna hate all women?
As for the gay kid....let it go. You don't need to be angry at him or anyone else about that anymore. It's water under the bridge. And try to see things from his point of view....unrequited love can be hell on earth. That poor kid was miserable because he couldn't be with you. Even though his advances were unwanted and inappropriate you still gotta cut him some slack! I know straight guys that get hit on by gay guys all the time....it happens! You don't need to feel angry or sick about it.
You gotta let go of all this anger man. It's not good for you.
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Originally posted by freakshow:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I spread HIV like wildfire.
Ya know, I fcuk gay people.
Too much info
Originally posted by freakshow:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
And no benefits for them, they spread HIV like wildfire.
As sad as that is all I can do is laugh at that comment.
Bravo pal. 
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Originally posted by daenku32:
You honestly expect people to have sex only a few times in their lifetime?
If that's a rhetorical question, you apparently have never met my wife. 
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Originally posted by daenku32:
You honestly expect people to have sex only a few times in their lifetime?
If that's a rhetorical question, you apparently have never met my wife.
Sorry but you have bigger problems to worry about than gays getting married. All I can say is ouch!
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
HOMOSEXUALITY IS JUST MORALLY WRONG!!
As crude as it is, "D for Chicks" is how we were created. I don't like the phrase, but that's the way it is. Deal with it.
I'm not sorry, becuase JESUS CHRIST offers everybody forgiveness if they ask and will turn from their sins.
Yeah, you're following his teachings of tolerance and love for your fellow man, alright, you hypocritcal moron. Homosexuality is against YOUR morals, make that distinction. My morals are FAR removed from yours, and frankly, if there came a time where you and I were candidates for the pearly gates, they'd welcome me in there before you, chuckles. Sleep on that one.
Remember, the bible was written when the earth was still flat and people were polytheists... if polytheism (practiced by the two of the most important societies the world will ever see) was "proven" wrong by Christianity, who's to say that Christianity won't be "proven" wrong by someone else in the future?
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
Overindulgence in everything which includes sex, eating, material belongings, etc, homosexuality was becoming the norm, not the exception, they were killing their future generations (either through some form of abortion or infancticide or both), sex was not sacred anymore, greed, money, the rich were getting richer and the poor were getting poorer, and on and on and on and on and on it goes.
You neglect to mention the rampant inbreeding by the straight couples to keep the "family lineage" through marriage. Yeah, being married and being able to reproduce is REAL helpful there, right? Shot yourself in the foot with that.
Yeah, I really shot myself in the foot   . It actually doesn't change the argument at all. It adds to what is happening and could happen in America. (For all we know, it's probably happening right now) It may give a reason to stop it all now. Do you not realize how blessed this country has been and fruitful this country has been? Coincidence?
I know I won't be able to change your mind, and I know I look "hypocritical" to you, but in all reality, I'm speaking with love and truth from the Bible. The Bible states that homosexuality is a sin, just like all the other sexual acts out there (sex with sister/brother/father/ mother, adultery etc) and when I speak I speak with the attitude that they can turn from their sins just like all of us can and need to.
Do I treat those in the midst of homosexuality any different than I would anybody else? No, in fact I have several friends who are or were homosexuals. SIMPLE AS THAT.
In other words, I'm not hypocritical, and I believe sin is sin, regardless of that sin, and one day all of us, including you, will have to stand before a right and just God to account for what you have done on Earth. I know that the "pearly gates" will be opened for me becuase I trust in JESUS CHRIST as my savior and am looking forward to glory with Him.
Originally posted by bishop375:
And, yeah, I reposted my own quotes, but, that's because nobody can argue the point. I've also known a few couples who got married because they loved each other, and never wanted children. Does that mean they shouldn't have been allowed to marry each other? NO. Who cares what their opinion on children is? Does it affect you? No, it doesn't. Your life will ALWAYS be your own life. Live it the way you want to. But do NOT take away the rights of others while you do it... THAT is what this country is about, NOT preventing gays from marrying.
I know a lot of couples who got married with no intention to have children. This country is not ABOUT individualistic freedoms and rights. In fact, this country was all about freedom from the oppressive state and that states religious oppressions. They founders and followers came here to get away from the state CHURCH so they could worship the God of the Bible with freedom. They didn't come here to give sinners free reign, and to give justification to sinners where justification doesn't exist.
What I just quoted from you shows that if I want to murder, I can murder, if I want to have sex with animals, I could, I suppose if I want to torture my children I could, I suppose if I want to do something, ANYTHING, i could because nothing is wrong anymore, it's all up to me, and if it's what I want then it is what I want. As long as it doesn't affect anybody else. Is this kind of like the guys who are watching porn in their cars? They can do it, as long as it doesn't affect anybody else right? Well, they are sitting in jail right now because you CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU WANT BECUASE IT WILL ALWAYS AFFECT SOMEBODY ELSE!!!!
This rampant individualistic attitude must go. Every action has a reaction and everything you do affects everybody else around you. You are not the only person on this earth. If you took a dump in a remote part of the forest, do you not think it would affect anybody else? Hey guess what, it is going to affect the wildlife. If you are married and you begin looking at other women, and lusting after them, and partaking in pornography, do you really not believe it won't affect anybody around you? It's a "victimless crime" right? NO! It is going to affect everything about your marriage.
In other words, homomarriage is going to affect us in more ways that I want to even imagine. Simple as that...
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For some reason i am not getting as grossly offended as i thought i would. what is sad though is that an experience like that has changed someones' view so dramatically that there is "hate". I think "ALL" of us have been "Through this" or "Been through what you have been through"... i know i have when people kept constantly making fun of me in Highschool for declaring myself an individual.. but.. i don't hate anyone, and if i did i would dislike that particular person. I have noticed though that the extremely homophobic ones are indeed the ones that have underlying issues that are repressed. Through my early adult years i have yet to see someone come up to me with me that much anger.. and i am part of a carclub.. i mean that has to be one of the hardest places to be accepted. hmmm..........  crrrraazzyyyyyy Interesting thread though.....
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Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
The Bible states that homosexuality is a sin, just like all the other sexual acts out there (sex with sister/brother/father/ mother, adultery etc) and when I speak I speak with the attitude that they can turn from their sins just like all of us can and need to.
Do I treat those in the midst of homosexuality any different than I would anybody else? No, in fact I have several friends who are or were homosexuals. SIMPLE AS THAT.
Do you truly believe the homosexuality is a sin?
If so, do you believe that slavery is not a sin? I'm sure you've heard this argument before, but I have yet to understand how some people accept parts of the bible, but dismiss others. I know this arguement has been used on both sides of the discussion. But seriously, do you believe that Slavery is not a sin?
In addition, do you ever work on the Sabbath? The bible clearly states this is a day for rest and that those who work should be put to death. How do you feel about emergency and police crews that work then. Or anyone else that works on the Sabbath? I won't go quoting any more passages as I think you get my point. What do you think?
I think you've been one of the cooler heads during this conversation that can allow for a healthy debate.
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