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I can't believe i am being so outspoken about this.. (moms gonna know for sure) lol..
Homosexuality a sin? has anyone seen what goes on behind most peoples bedroom doors!!! haha (surely those sex shops exist for a reason). If its a sin then im the anti-christ himself.. oh btw, I live in New Paltz and i know Jason West. He's been talking about this for a Loooong time (and yes hes a media queen). NP is a very liberal town sort of woodstock like. I was at the marches and the marriages it was definitely an awesome sight.. so much emotion involved.. and we will continue the weddings every week without west.
Now if they could only stop giving me the "im str8 but dont h8" signs to carry.. excuse me while i get my Hair did' and nails done.
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Originally posted by 99SESPORT:
In other words, homomarriage is going to affect us in more ways that I want to even imagine. Simple as that...
I'm trying my hardest to imagine, but don't see it. I would ask you to elaborate but since most of your posts are religiously based, they don't mean anything to me. So no need to waste your time.
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Originally posted by zgendron:
If so, do you believe that slavery is not a sin? I'm sure you've heard this argument before, but I have yet to understand how some people accept parts of the bible, but dismiss others. I know this arguement has been used on both sides of the discussion. But seriously, do you believe that Slavery is not a sin?
In addition, do you ever work on the Sabbath? The bible clearly states this is a day for rest and that those who work should be put to death. How do you feel about emergency and police crews that work then. Or anyone else that works on the Sabbath? I won't go quoting any more passages as I think you get my point. What do you think?
Slavery in Biblical times was entirely different. People would sell themselves into slavery for periods of 3-5 years to pay off their debts. There was none of this marching into Africa and grabbing people bullsh!t. In my opinion, slavery, especially the kind America and Europe were guilty of violates several Biblical principles.
As for working on the Sabbath, Jesus said something about how its OK to go help your animals if they fall into a pit on the Sabbath and how there can be exceptions to the no working on Sabbath rule. He healed people on the Sabbath and when people gave him attitude about it he said it was OK to do that. So, according to my interpretation, emergency and police crews who work on Sabbath are not violating any Biblical principles.
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In other words, homomarriage is going to affect us in more ways that I want to even imagine. Simple as that...
So you compare "homomarriage" with other "rampant individualistic actions" such as beastiality, murder, and molestation...
Do you tell your homosexual "friends" that? I guarantee you they wouldn't be your friends very long.
I just wanna know how homomarriage (God, I hate that word) is going to affect "us in more ways than I want to even imagine". We've had this discussion before, and you've never been able to successsfully answer that, you just keep saying it's going to totally change our lives.
And how is homosexual marriage any more "individualistic" than your own marriage -- seeing that the vast majority of people get married for no other reason than their inate desire to do so.
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
Originally posted by Contouraholic:
So now the question becomes: "What's in our water?"
For one thing, not as much arsenic as the Bush Adminstration would like.
Bush and his buddies in the chemical industry are also doing their damndest to make sure we all get our minimum daily requirements of MTBEs.
Well, Arsenic can have its benefits... Victorian men used arsenic as a precursor to Viagra and women used it to enhance their complexions (paler skin and rosier cheeks). It was frequently distilled by boiling flypapers.
My aunt has a candy recipe that calls for arsenic. When she could no longer get it, the candy wasn't ever right after that.
I am not actually supporting the consumption of arsenic, but a few odd factoids I remember.
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Originally posted by ContourKev:
Holy [censored]...
Over 160 posts within a couple days....
Is this a record? 
Hows that compare to Moser Gill Blow me? <---CEG veterans will remember that one. 
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This is the end result of being settled by Puritains. 
On adoption. I am an advocate of open adoption where the mother chooses the parents of her child and maintains a relationship with the child. After the father waives paternal rights, the mother would have the right to choose the parent(s) she feels is/are best for her child, after passing screening requirements which do not include gender.
Many of our nations founder's were in favor of the rights of the indiviual. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine to name a few. Paine was one of many who lobbied AGAINST the Constitution because I gave too many powers to the federal government. James Madison wrote the Bill or Rights to try to appease the individualists.
Our nation has always been built on the rule of the majority, while maintaining the rights of the minority. The place of government is to protect people from actions they do not or cannot consent to, to provide defense, and to provide infrastructure for defense and interstate commerce. That's really about it.
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Originally posted by Mystery98:
As for working on the Sabbath, Jesus said something about how its OK to go help your animals if they fall into a pit on the Sabbath and how there can be exceptions to the no working on Sabbath rule. He healed people on the Sabbath and when people gave him attitude about it he said it was OK to do that. So, according to my interpretation, emergency and police crews who work on Sabbath are not violating any Biblical principles.
Fair enough, but what about every other job that we've now had in our society. I mean, where do I start.
Gas Station Attendents (would suck not to have that option)
Retail People (can't shop anymore)
TV Personnel (no Football!)
I could go on and on. Do you think these people, and anyone else that works on the Sabbath is a sinner? You addressed the emergency personnel, but haven't talked about anyone else.
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Read your Bible much closer and without your pastor's verbage on the particular passage. Verses that pertain to homosexuality are taken out of context, especially those in Paul. The most common examples that have been blown out of proportion are to be found in Paul's sermons to the Corinthians and the story of Sodom in the Old Testament. While evil is the main topic of discussion in reference of Sodom and Paul addressing prostitution and orgy cults in the Roman empire at the time, these are totally washed away by a reckless notion to concentrate ONLY on homosexuality, which doesn't even make up 1/10th of the discourse in either Genesis or Corinthians.
In short, it's like opening the Bible up to Isaiah and basing the entire message of the Good Book off of some of the bloody and disturbing passages within that single chapter...
I'm not saying that homosexuality is normal; in terms of population on this planet, it most certainly isn't. Moral? I fail to see how sexual preference that certain people are predisposed towards from birth is a matter of religious morality.
Food for thought: Where to hermaphrodites (i.e., those with male and female genetialia) fit into God's plan and the Christian definition of sexual morality? It's a very different topic, but one that is parallel to the argument that homosexuals face from intolerant and condemning Christians. I've yet to have ANYONE of the cloth or otherwise give a cohesive and logical explaination behind this one, but feel free to give it a shot as I do enjoy watching people dig metaphorical holes in the ground...
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Originally posted by Mystery98:
As for working on the Sabbath, Jesus said something about how its OK to go help your animals if they fall into a pit on the Sabbath and how there can be exceptions to the no working on Sabbath rule. He healed people on the Sabbath and when people gave him attitude about it he said it was OK to do that. So, according to my interpretation, emergency and police crews who work on Sabbath are not violating any Biblical principles.
Fair enough, but what about every other job that we've now had in our society. I mean, where do I start.
Gas Station Attendents (would suck not to have that option)
Retail People (can't shop anymore)
TV Personnel (no Football!)
I could go on and on. Do you think these people, and anyone else that works on the Sabbath is a sinner? You addressed the emergency personnel, but haven't talked about anyone else.
Nope......
Someone asked specifically about emergency personnel earlier and I was answering their question. No, I didn't mean to imply that anyone else who works on the Sabbath is a sinner. I've had to work Sundays before....a lot of people don't have a choice. In Biblical times a lot more people were self-employed so they could choose to not work on that day. My interpretation of that rule for the modern world is that we need to take time for rest and contemplation. Beyond that I don't have an answer.
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