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Well Thanks for the offer, but there is one in the mail for me...I've been running without my stock intake for a while and i've been getting about 260 on a tank, but i have a led foot and love the roar of the engine with the cone on there so...naturally my gasmilage isn't what it could be. I used to get between 280-300 with stock air box I just don't know what happened there, i'll contribute most of it to constant hard acceleration, but also to a trip from home town columbia, sc to bristol, tn during which i drove no less than 90 all the way. I'll put it on there when i get it and see what happens, but from what i've been hearing it looks to be a bad idea.
'88 Camaro SC 305 The "new" car.
Rear wheel drive is great!
'00 Honda Civic si EPB, STOLEN 11/25/05
Miss my baby, now my little bros car.
'96 Contour SE w/ '98 svt exhaust w/
Dynomax res and mufflers
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Thats funny...a n00b thinks he is smarter than the rest of use sage CEGer's. 
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Thats funny...a n00b thinks he is smarter than the rest of use sage CEGer's.
And the rest of the automotive world that has a clue!
Steve
98 Contour SE Sport 2.5 Duratec ATX The wifey's car
89 Taurus SHO - 246K miles
94 SHO ATX - 190K
1997 F-150 5.4L ATX - The Workhorse 150K.
ANY THREAD WITH "OMG" or "WTF" ETC IN THE TITLE WILL BE IGNORED!
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well when i put mine on, it ripped the tranny out, but that 2 seconds when i dumped the clutch wooowww!
HORSEPOWERIC= ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD STILL AIN'T ENOUGH
98 silver svt, modified y,ngk(indexed),pulley's,shifter,redline. future plans,custom borla exhaust, bilstein/h&r, rota slipstream 16x7 13 lb"s
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Supposedly it really helps with carborated vehicles, but does practically nothing for FI.
Last I checked, our car didn't have a carborator. It could be hiding from me though..
The Spickle
New Car: Infra Red '04 FSVT
Former Car: Black '98 CSVT, #3137/6535 "The Unluckiest car.. ever"
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Dude! The carburetor's in the glove box! You haven't seen it?
99 SVTC, T-Red, #652/2760-12.8.1998
Mother#@%@!* did I sound abstract?
I hope it sounded more confusin than that!
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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Dude! The carburetor's in the glove box! You haven't seen it?
no [censored]! i thought that was a fancy lookin tire pressure guage. 
~Andrew
2001 VW Jetta Wolfsburg Edition
20 valves of fury
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I just leave my tire guage pressed in to the valve stem...
Looks a *censored* sight better than those "tire flys" and all I gotta do, now, is get out and look down to see how much air I have!!!
TRY IT!!
Ray
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In a constant state of blow-off euphoria.
Originally posted by Kremitthefrog:
I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.
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This product is bogus when used in FI cars due to the fact that it is stationary ( non moving). ,,, Except when it unexpectedly turns sideways and clogs the air path. The only way that anything like this will work is if it can move (rotate) in accordance to intake velocity. This requires alot of fabrication and way better metal (thicker). Also a super high performance bearing would have to be welded to a turbine constructed much like a turbo blade is made. The turbine will have to be 4" in diameter as well as the tubing that houses it. Even after all this, you might only gain 5HP TOPS! I know this due to the fact that I have constructed a model and tested it out on my own. The basic principal is that intake air is spiraled at speeds according to engine speed, which helps induce air into the intake manifold. As the throttle body closes the turbine continues to spin, but slows down as well (depending on TB positioning). The turbine continues to aid induction until the TB closes which allows someone to WOT then release and then POT or WOT and keep a much stronger and quicker rebound than normal. There are 3 points to be made here; 1. Tornado is expensive,non-moving, and provides virtually no gains for F.I. vehicles. 2. Since carburated vehicles do experience gains, it is imperative that vortex airflow is superior to straight airflow in intakes. 3. To create a true vortex in F.I. vehicles, moving parts must be used. (Which, if fabricated improperly, can damage internal engine parts if they malfunction.)  WAKE UP!
a D*CK SLAP IN THE FACE IS ALL I GET FOR STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR A FORD... PLEASE DELETE MY ACCOUNT!
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Very interesting write-up, and fabrication, however, How does this gain anything, even if the air IS spiraled, or vortexed? I was under the impression, from prior "tornado/snake oil" posts, that even properly spiralled air would lose any sense of help once it hit the UIM/internal parts, as these aren't designed to MAINTAIN that spiral shape of air..
I read something wrong????
Ray
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Originally posted by Kremitthefrog:
I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.
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