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Originally posted by {Kontofosho}:
Atl you are a fool, you can clearly see that the car has huge lag issues, and to state that your car has "no lag" is a moot point, he has a different turbo which can completely change spooling characteristics.
Ding, ding, ding...
We have a winner...
Exactly my entire point about the dyno graph in question. (NOT ABOUT THE SRT-4 IN STOCK FORM!  )
Then ATL only confirmed my other valid point about him. 
---ATL---
Oh BTW - the SF kit with the T28 makes full boost below 3000rpm.
Tom's 3L with a T3/4 60-1 trim and large (.83/.86?) A/R turbine wheel still makes full boost by about 3500-4000rpm (depending on set boost level)
Also that's using the 2" primary prototype headers which slightly prolong spool time.
The funny thing is...
It was YOU that said having less bottom end torque to get the car launched better was a good idea. Funny how that is exactly how Tom's engine makes power.  Though he still has terrible traction problems anyway. (something about a FLAT TQ curve though  )
Again you put your head even further up your ass then was ever thought possible.
Man this thread is a big hoot...
Yes you have a fast car right out of the box. No Question.
Still does not make you any less clueless and ignorant though...
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by {Kontofosho}:
Atl you are a fool, you can clearly see that the car has huge lag issues, and to state that your car has "no lag" is a moot point, he has a different turbo which can completely change spooling characteristics.
Ding, ding, ding...
We have a winner...
Exactly my entire point about the dyno graph in question. (NOT ABOUT THE SRT-4 IN STOCK FORM! )
Then ATL only confirmed my other valid point about him.
---ATL---
Oh BTW - the SF kit with the T28 makes full boost below 3000rpm.
Tom's 3L with a T3/4 60-1 trim and large (.83/.86?) A/R turbine wheel still makes full boost by about 3500-4000rpm (depending on set boost level)
Also that's using the 2" primary prototype headers which slightly prolong spool time.
The funny thing is...
It was YOU that said having less bottom end torque to get the car launched better was a good idea. Funny how that is exactly how Tom's engine makes power. Though he still has terrible traction problems anyway. (something about a FLAT TQ curve though )
Again you put your head even further up your ass then was ever thought possible.
Man this thread is a big hoot...
Yes you have a fast car right out of the box. No Question.
Still does not make you any less clueless and ignorant though...
Tim
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ATL, I have to point out that Demon wasn't referring to the stock SRT-4 or even yours, but he was strictly talking about the 500HP SRT-4. With that large of a turbo peaking that much later then it would have lag, a proportionate amount compared to the power it starts with at low rpm.
The stock SRT-4 has no noticeable lag to me from riding in it.
Of course we are again comparing it to a no-turbo tour also.
Compared to mine the stock SRT-4 was weak, but the nicely modded SRT-4 that Steve drove me around in was very equal to what I was driving.
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It rained tonite and I met up with my srt owning friend in a big empty parking lot.... First time he was able to get spin without wheel hop.... good thing it has that 7 year warranty. 
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
It rained tonite and I met up with my srt owning friend in a big empty parking lot.... First time he was able to get spin without wheel hop.... good thing it has that 7 year warranty.
was your car able to spin the tires?
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I don't push my car very hard (car has to last me hopefully another 4 years atleast and I don't trust the cd4e and my 100k mile axles that much),, though you know of course when I was waiting for him I did have a little fun and did lose traction a few times when I was just playing around, but I never actually tried to spin them. Though if you wanna know can my car spin the tires... yeah, I've done it at the drag strip,,, I imagine I could even do a decent burnout if I got better rear brakes and put my old wheels on.... but don't care to hurt my car anymore than I have. 
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Originally posted by Russell-3L:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
It rained tonite and I met up with my srt owning friend in a big empty parking lot.... First time he was able to get spin without wheel hop.... good thing it has that 7 year warranty.
was your car able to spin the tires?
Yep.....all the way up to 6750 redline!  I love rain...makes my car feel powerful! 
Hector
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On a side note:
Steve's SRT-4 already grenaded the flywheel/clutch assembly and damaged the crank about a month and a half ago.
They replaced the cracked transmission housing and the damaged crankshaft under warranty.
Well yesterday he told me that he has been having more problems and now they are going to give him another engine. He suddenly developed a new vibration AND he claims it is starting to run lean.
So, reliability issue number two for having 300 wHP in an SRT-4....in the same car. He is a hard driver though! I wonder how long Dodge will take that stuff before they say screw-off. That is going to cost them some serious money if everybody starts jacking up the boost like he did. He's running like 18-20#'s. So to get his 300wHP he has stressed his stock engine to the max.
I on the other hand I barely use my turbo's capability with 6#'s and make that much power. He's owned his car about as long as I had mine turbo'd, since about this summer. He is going on motor number two in that time frame, mine was still running fine, smooth and reliable as ever until I decided to try some new upgrades.
Opinions anyone?
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With 230whp on the SRT4s it's still considerably faster than many of the cars out on the road.  Of course, with an aftermarket like the one the SRT4 is building...I'd be hard pressed to not mod a SRT4 if I owned one. My opinion: If you're going to drive it like an A-hole, bump the boost up to quesionably safe levels...then it's not going to last no matter what the car.
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What has he done as far as fuel management,etc.? I've read that going even just a little higher than the stock 15 psi can require a lotta stuff, injectors, fuel pump, computer control,etc...
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