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Is a 00 zetec foci headers interchangeable with a 97 constique?
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Search, and how you have not seen this answered before is beyond me.
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damn search nazi go away 
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Exactly which style header were you looking at? There's a couple different answers here... Yes, I also had a hell-of-a time finding this answer myself, but chose to bypass the nazis 
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Well I only found someting about haivn got move or relocate my dman EGR system according to SleepZ if I understood correctly but why would i have to do that??? im lookign at one like this   
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Search, and how you have not seen this answered before is beyond me.
LOOK pot calling the kettle black 
how many times did you keep asking hector and I about the header casue you wouldn't search for the info on it??? 
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First off, stay away from anything by OBX!
Their short shifters keep breaking on people,
and generaly their product quality if low.
That said;
I believe the bolt patterns are the same for all the Zetecs.
Contours have less space for our headers than the Focus,
so getting a focus header to fit will be tricky,
if not impossible.
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
For pre98's, the EGR system will need to be accomodated for.
Don't just "delete" the EGR system,
it will do more harm than good.
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ah ok thanks I knew about the limited space, but I didnt know aobut OBX quality
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I say screw the whole lot of you search nazis, i have probably read 50 pages of header posts and this is what i learned:
Those who have the headers are fond of hinting at what needs to be changed with out being specific.
Those who have teh headers are not very likely to give you an answer besides it will have to be modified to fit and thats about it.
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Originally posted by StealthWyvern:
We put that one on my buddy's ZX3, but it ain't all bling bling like that. It was a beeeyotch to do. There's barely enough clearance in the ZX3, and I would reckon the 'Tour is even tighter.
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This guy just asked if a focus header will fit. I never asked that. I asked specifics which can be hard to find. If he asked specifically what needs to be done, I would have answered, and I still will if he asks me. Atleast I change my oil filter more than once every five years. 
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ok wtf is up with the trout thing...someone wanna explain that damn thing to me cuz I don't get it.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
This guy just asked if a focus header will fit. I never asked that. I asked specifics which can be hard to find. If he asked specifically what needs to be done, I would have answered, and I still will if he asks me.
Atleast I change my oil filter more than once every five years.
Oh im sorry i didn't specify which headers but I was asking about anyone as far as bolting up. Grant it I wasnt thinking about space at that very moment. I kinda figured i might have to relocate something. However why didn't you ask to which setup I was asking about? Iv'e read countless pages and um... well noting was a definate yes or no. SleeperZ was the most detailed about it saying that I would have to mess with the EGR setup slightly. Anyways I got my answer no thanks to you
thxz for your help sleeper
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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
ok wtf is up with the trout thing...someone wanna explain that damn thing to me cuz I don't get it.
I just look at it as if your beatign someone beign dumb
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Because it doesn't matter what header you use... there is more to it than the EGR,, ooo well, but since you already have your answer........
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well that header more then likely wouldnt fit into my car due ot the room after what was mentioned on the zx3 and the quality sucks so ill just save the money and replace some car audio crap. lol
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It'll bolt on, it's been done before with a similar design. But there's more to it than just the header piece fitting. But good thinking on saving the money.
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Flange won't fit the Contour. Will bolt up. I won't go into any more detail about my header.....SEARCH!!!
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I knew the flang wouldnt bolt up and that thier would be modifying teh exhuast a little bit but I was mainly concerind about room adn it bolting right up. Is that the only thing tha woudl stop be from puttign on in my car is the flang not bolting right up without custom work due other then room and thigns gettign in the way but generaly speaking.
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Basically there is a bracket for support on the Focus header and the stock manifold where our dipstick is. Second our cats have four bolts connecting them to the exhaust manifold where the Focus cat only has three. I am 110% sure on these facys becuase i have a stock Focus exhaust manifold laynig on my front floorboard as I type this.
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So yes a focus header will bolt right up to the block but the flange and other boltign locatiosn will need to be modified in order to fit. Thier also maybe clearence issue. You would have to relocate a few things. And the down pipe may need to be extended down some dependign on the header. So far thats what I understand goign from this tread and others that I have read before.
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Originally posted by StealthWyvern:
Thier also maybe clearence issue.
So far, I haven't seen a clearence issue with the actual header. Don't forget about o2 sensors.
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This is a picture of a similar header in the contour... 
This is the thread...
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It will fit...apparently w/ stock everything(you must change the flange or make an adapter...3 bolt to 4 bolt, or vice versa) I've also read you need to use the longer Focus dipstick & tube.
OBX doesn't have a good rep...although Steeda makes the same design, along w/ others. Anything could be done & this looks like less labor intensive header project than others...but the performance of a 4-2-1 obviously isn't going to be there, although this will help the flow over the stock manifold...But hey, it's only $100.
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Originally posted by bk4293:
Basically there is a bracket for support on the Focus header and the stock manifold where our dipstick is. Second our cats have four bolts connecting them to the exhaust manifold where the Focus cat only has three. I am 110% sure on these facys becuase i have a stock Focus exhaust manifold laynig on my front floorboard as I type this.
btw steve don't go cutting up my header just yet.
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
This is a picture of a similar header in the contour...
This is the thread...
Linky
It will fit...apparently w/ stock everything(you must change the flange or make an adapter...3 bolt to 4 bolt, or vice versa) I've also read you need to use the longer Focus dipstick & tube.
OBX doesn't have a good rep...although Steeda makes the same design, along w/ others. Anything could be done & this looks like less labor intensive header project than others...but the performance of a 4-2-1 obviously isn't going to be there, although this will help the flow over the stock manifold...But hey, it's only $100.
There is a difference in performance.....nice power on the low end in the Focus!!!!  
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
This is a picture of a similar header in the contour...
This is the thread...
Linky
It will fit...apparently w/ stock everything(you must change the flange or make an adapter...3 bolt to 4 bolt, or vice versa) I've also read you need to use the longer Focus dipstick & tube.
OBX doesn't have a good rep...although Steeda makes the same design, along w/ others. Anything could be done & this looks like less labor intensive header project than others...but the performance of a 4-2-1 obviously isn't going to be there, although this will help the flow over the stock manifold...But hey, it's only $100.
There is a difference in performance.....nice power on the low end in the Focus!!!!
Won't help the focus if its on the contour 
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoZ:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
This is a picture of a similar header in the contour...
This is the thread...
Linky
It will fit...apparently w/ stock everything(you must change the flange or make an adapter...3 bolt to 4 bolt, or vice versa) I've also read you need to use the longer Focus dipstick & tube.
OBX doesn't have a good rep...although Steeda makes the same design, along w/ others. Anything could be done & this looks like less labor intensive header project than others...but the performance of a 4-2-1 obviously isn't going to be there, although this will help the flow over the stock manifold...But hey, it's only $100.
There is a difference in performance.....nice power on the low end in the Focus!!!!
Won't help the focus if its on the contour
I was just saying I rode in one....this past weekend. 
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
I was just saying I rode in one....this past weekend.
Oh, I must have missed that point somewhere in the translation...  j/k
...w/ the factory cat or was it gutted also? How was the noise level?
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoZ:
I was just saying I rode in one....this past weekend.
Oh, I must have missed that point somewhere in the translation... j/k
...w/ the factory cat or was it gutted also? How was the noise level?
No...stock cat....resonator and no muffler...sounded pretty good...not too loud.
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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
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Originally posted by RGSOUNDF:
Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
word!
It will cost you.
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Originally posted by fingas:
I say screw the whole lot of you search nazis, i have probably read 50 pages of header posts and this is what i learned:
Those who have the headers are fond of hinting at what needs to be changed with out being specific.
Those who have teh headers are not very likely to give you an answer besides it will have to be modified to fit and thats about it.
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
Originally posted by RGSOUNDF:
Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
word!
It will cost you.
like how much...
I think someone in this listed should just have a button list of everything you need to make the headers work..
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$300 for the header
$200 for the install and modification
$75 for new cat
$200 for 2.5" flex pipe
$25 for new gaskets
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Originally posted by LoCoChick:
Originally posted by fingas:
I say screw the whole lot of you search nazis, i have probably read 50 pages of header posts and this is what i learned:
Those who have the headers are fond of hinting at what needs to be changed with out being specific.
Those who have teh headers are not very likely to give you an answer besides it will have to be modified to fit and thats about it.
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
 methinks you had insider information
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
$300 for the header
$200 for the install and modification
$75 for new cat
$200 for 2.5" flex pipe
$25 for new gaskets
  
daaayumm...that $100 OBX POS is lookin' better & better
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoZ:
$300 for the header
$200 for the install and modification
$75 for new cat
$200 for 2.5" flex pipe
$25 for new gaskets
daaayumm...that $100 OBX POS is lookin' better & better
I have the OBX and it is awesome.
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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
The one from the ZXTuner store is nice.
Avoid the Gude header. Their stuff for somestic cars is mostly crap acording to a lot of peole that tried it.
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Originally posted by FasterThanLoco:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoZ:
$300 for the header
$200 for the install and modification
$75 for new cat
$200 for 2.5" flex pipe
$25 for new gaskets
daaayumm...that $100 OBX POS is lookin' better & better
I have the OBX and it is awesome.
REALLY????
I wanna be faster than loco too!!! Details?
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
$300 for the header
$200 for the install and modification
$75 for new cat
$200 for 2.5" flex pipe
$25 for new gaskets
Any mod worth doing isn't cheap!
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That's for sure...but would I be safe w/ the OBX if I weren't planning on racing or otherwise beating the bejesus out of the car??? I only put <10,000mi a year on my cars...it would mainly be for an occasional show & a little help in the breathing dept.(along w/ the intake). I'm not looking for stellar gains by any means.
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The OBX offers better performance than the stock header.
At the rate the OBX short shifter is failing,
and the fact even their pedals have broken,
I would think twice about thier header.
If you're going to spend all the money to make a header fit,
spend a little extra money on the header itself.
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Considering it's only $100+shipping & it would retain the stock cat...the only fab on it would be the flange where it bolts to the existing remaining exhaust(3-bolt/4-bolt). It looks to be a pretty straightforward bolt-on piece. So other than obtaining the focus dipstick & tube, which I am sure it would be reasonably inexpensive, I wouldn't have anymore money in it. IF what has been said about the fitment is true... correct?
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I don't think the Focus dipstick tube goes into the oil pan in the same place ours does.
The flange you would have to change would be the one on the cat itself which alot of places probably won't touch.
There is also a sensor which goes into the exhaust manifold on the Contour which goes into the cat on the Focus.
Swithching the cat to a Focus cat isn't really an option becuase the pipe coming off the cat on the Contour comes off on the passangers side, and the pipe coming off of the Focus goes straight back.
If you're really looking for performance gains, I would spend the extra money and get the race header and just re-do the entire exhaust like Hector did.The header will give you a performance gain, but there still is the restriction of the stock cat and stock 1.75 inch piping.
If you're going for performance do it right the first time, or you'll be kicking yourself in the @ss for a long time!
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As I said above, it's not really about performance for me other than the breathing benefits...as far as the flange goes I am aware of the cat flange needing to be changed, also the flange Could be changed to a 4-bolt on the header itself which wouldn't be a big deal either. It Should line up correctly w/ the existing cat in the 'tour. I wasn't considering a focus cat swap at all. The header can be drilled & tapped, or a boss welded to it for that matter, in order to accept the sensor(I have considered that also, but haven't put much thought into it, it seems minor). The reason this all seems easier to me is due to the fact that this can be done at my fathers shop rather than taking it to a muffler shop & dealing w/ bending pipes & unwilling muffler guys...not to mention the cost.
And this is not a track/strip car by any means, but I would like a little something extra w/o the cost. I gotta PM the guy that did this same header on his, I wonder if he's still on here...
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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Originally posted by LoCoZ:
Originally posted by RGSOUNDF:
Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Find a ZX2 4-2-1 header and take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it fit.
word!
It will cost you.
like how much...
I think someone in this listed should just have a button list of everything you need to make the headers work..
I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I typed this...
but perhaps in the Newbs mod sticky you could make a button list of everything needed to make the headers fit.
On that note, I think I'll just wait for a contour specific header
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoChick:
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
methinks you had insider information
I guess I did too the as did EVERYONE on CEG when hector had the header done....
all I gotta say is SEARCH!!!!! the answers are out there 
if people would actually search before they posted we wouldn't have 1 million threads asking the same thing and people would be able to find the stuff quicker.... ooh wiat what was I thinking that would require them searching before asking
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Damn NewBies.....they need to check out the archives.
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoChick:
Originally posted by fingas:
I say screw the whole lot of you search nazis, i have probably read 50 pages of header posts and this is what i learned:
Those who have the headers are fond of hinting at what needs to be changed with out being specific.
Those who have teh headers are not very likely to give you an answer besides it will have to be modified to fit and thats about it.
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
methinks you had insider information
You think wrong. I didn't start talking to Hector until February of this year. His header had been on for a couple of months. That's why I said "ARCHIVE".
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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoChick:
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
methinks you had insider information
I guess I did too the as did EVERYONE on CEG when hector had the header done....
all I gotta say is SEARCH!!!!! the answers are out there
if people would actually search before they posted we wouldn't have 1 million threads asking the same thing and people would be able to find the stuff quicker.... ooh wiat what was I thinking that would require them searching before asking
Wholey sh!t...its like the freakin zetec mafia shows up...
WTF...why does every one seem to have thier panties all bunched up on these forums lately??? IT WAS A FREAKING JOKE...notice the smiley?
THIS particular header was only covered ONCE & not very completely, upon my EXTENSIVE SEARCHING...I don't want a header like Hector has, but if thats the only one you guys can seem to comment on in a positive way then fine no biggie...admitting that you are only familiar w/ the one he has & you have no further info is not an issue...Search for a focus header in particular & come up w/ no valuable info whatsoever.
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by LoCoChick:
I disagree. The information is there. I knew what needed to be changed when Hector put the header on--it's in the archives but it is there. Also, it's been mentioned recently--and now you have an even more detailed description.
methinks you had insider information
I guess I did too the as did EVERYONE on CEG when hector had the header done....
all I gotta say is SEARCH!!!!! the answers are out there
if people would actually search before they posted we wouldn't have 1 million threads asking the same thing and people would be able to find the stuff quicker.... ooh wiat what was I thinking that would require them searching before asking
Wholey sh!t...its like the freakin zetec mafia shows up...
WTF...why does every one seem to have thier panties all bunched up on these forums lately??? IT WAS A FREAKING JOKE...notice the smiley?
THIS particular header was only covered ONCE & not very completely, upon my EXTENSIVE SEARCHING...I don't want a header like Hector has, but if thats the only one you guys can seem to comment on in a positive way then fine no biggie...admitting that you are only familiar w/ the one he has & you have no further info is not an issue...Search for a focus header in particular & come up w/ no valuable info whatsoever.
I always joke, Joe does not.
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Thanks Hector... 
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Any zetec header should work but ALL require modification.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Any zetec header should work but ALL require modification.
Except mine. Who wants to fund my turbo?
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Your's does require modification,,, EGR. Tell me again how much you'd think that would cost to get done and how much you want for the header?
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$100 in mods for EGR and about $300 (guess) for his header, is still less than doing it all from scratch. Wish I had the money.
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Oo I gots da money. Just wonderin if it's really worth it to me and I'd have to pay to have it installed cuz I don't feel like doing it.
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Actually there is a Contour specific header that was introduced a while back. Nobody jumped on it though becuase it was over $1000! I thought that was outrageous myself until I just read Hector paid $800 for his header + install. I think it was made by Remus or something like that.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Any zetec header should work but ALL require modification.
Oh yeah, no sh!t...Has anyone here figured out that this thread has to do w/ a completely different header than the one Hector has & trying to make it work on our car & NOT looking for the other options that have been done already? And we were looking for installation DETAILS...not "w/ some modification it will fit"...OK genius, what modifications?
It's pretty obvious that no one here is familiar w/ the one from the initial post...
This is going absolutely nowhere...
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well the flange will have to be modded and the sencors will have to be placed in thier some how that is from what I have noticed. Other then that um... it should bolt right up to the block that is. However you will have to not only adjust the flange but you will need a downpipe becuase that header and the stock setup for the exhuast out of the headers will need be redone. I only know this because I tore down a few at the u-pull it yesterday. However I havnt actualy done installed teh OBX header.
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Originally posted by StealthWyvern:
However you will have to not only adjust the flange but you will need a downpipe becuase that header and the stock setup for the exhuast out of the headers will need be redone. I only know this because I tore down a few at the u-pull it yesterday. However I havnt actualy done installed teh OBX header.
Huh? Not real clear here...lol
What do you mean "adjust" the flange... & the downpipe also?
So are you installing this header after all? Could get a section of focus down pipe(5-6") w/ the flange & cut the contour/mystique's flange off & weld the focus piece to it. Is this what you are talking about w/ the sensor?
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Any zetec header should work but ALL require modification.
Oh yeah, no sh!t...Has anyone here figured out that this thread has to do w/ a completely different header than the one Hector has & trying to make it work on our car & NOT looking for the other options that have been done already? And we were looking for installation DETAILS...not "w/ some modification it will fit"...OK genius, what modifications?
It's pretty obvious that no one here is familiar w/ the one from the initial post...
This is going absolutely nowhere...
Dude WTF is your problem.....I TOLD YOU TO SEARCH the archives. That is where I posted EVERYTHING I DID to fit the header...I am not about to type everything I typed a couple times before...get off your ass and SEARCH.
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Originally posted by LoCoZ:
Originally posted by SVZETEC:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Any zetec header should work but ALL require modification.
Oh yeah, no sh!t...Has anyone here figured out that this thread has to do w/ a completely different header than the one Hector has & trying to make it work on our car & NOT looking for the other options that have been done already? And we were looking for installation DETAILS...not "w/ some modification it will fit"...OK genius, what modifications?
It's pretty obvious that no one here is familiar w/ the one from the initial post...
This is going absolutely nowhere...
Dude WTF is your problem.....I TOLD YOU TO SEARCH the archives. That is where I posted EVERYTHING I DID to fit the header...I am not about to type everything I typed a couple times before...get off your ass and SEARCH.
"DUDE"...I hope you are joking, cause once again this is not about you or YOUR header...its a completely different style of header 
Doesn't look like yours now does it... There's been one other thread on here about the particular one I am talking about & no further info was given...thread Get off MY ass & search??? Have you read any of the above? SEARCH... I could be nice about this, but damn nobody gets it other than stealthw. who originally posted about them...looks like everyone is skimming this post & not seeing what it was about to begin w/ & making any smart remark as they'd like...and that "DUDE" is WTF my problem is
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Seriously, search and quit being an idiot. READ THIS: ANY ZETEC HEADER WILL BOLT UP. The required modifications will be the same/near the same as hector's header, SEARCH for how he installed his. Maybe you shouldn't be trying to modify your car if you don't understand this. And DUDE really WTF is your problem? People offer you help yet you don't use it.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Seriously, search and quit being an idiot. READ THIS: ANY ZETEC HEADER WILL BOLT UP. The required modifications will be the same/near the same as hector's header, SEARCH for how he installed his. Maybe you shouldn't be trying to modify your car if you don't understand this. And DUDE really WTF is your problem? People offer you help yet you don't use it.
READ THIS:I know it'll freakin bolt to the block...what help Kremit, search??? yes I am aware of this feature...which is how I am coming to the conclusion that only one person has installed this header & is not available for comment.
So this is the same as Hectors huh? Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't have a header or experience installing it. Bet you don't like hearing that either...I'm hardly being an idiot, but I would like someone from your zetec clique to come out & admit that there might be something you don't know about
The whole point is, has anyone installed this header & knows what is involved? Simple yes or no, if you do then great, if you don't...don't post... This isn't something thats been posted before...at least not w/ any answers
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Ok so you realize that only one person has installed that header (which he also gave a general idea of what he had to do to make it work) and I've TOLD YOU that any header will require the same basic modification as hector's. If you're serious about it, then buy it and figure it out. It isn't the most complicated thing and a shop will probably being doing all the work for you anyways.
Feel free to go home, when people are helping you and you don't appreciate that help, I don't think they could care less if you stick around.
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
DUDE...DUDE...DUDE...GTFU
[eric cartman voice on]screw you guys I'm going home[eric cartman voice off]
OK BYE don't let the door hit you in the AZZ on the way out.
cause
1 you are a moron.
2 no it's not the same exact one as hectors but you know what it will need the SAME MODS HIS DID
3 you would of know that if you searched
4 well you are still an idiot
5 you must me 12 years only by the way you act
6 you show a lack of any knowledge at all of any kind
7 I'll give you a hint as to what needs to be modded downpipe can you see it... I can...
8 I'm sure you still have no clue what need to me modded for aheader to work so I will stop typing
and for anyone and every one use the F$%KING SEARCH!!!! there is nothing you kiddies can think of that hasn't already been talked about in the current forums or the old ones and don't tell me you didn't find anything. you poor kids have all this info on here about this car and engine guess where all that info was back in 1998 when I got my contour..... there was none.... anything on here as in what little there was on here was ALL DURATEC related. so to all the newbies SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH SEATCH... I had to as did many other Zetec owners before you and we are why the info is here
ok that is all
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What crawled up his butt and died? lamo Hell on the OBX header their is no mooding of the down pipefor it hell it doenst have one that is if yoru not counting the stock one btw. Yeah the answers were out their but they may not been as blunt as others would like. Thier was thigns that was said that i read up on that made me uncertain.
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Originally posted by StealthWyvern:
What crawled up his butt and died? lamo Hell on the OBX header their is no mooding of the down pipefor it hell it doenst have one that is if yoru not counting the stock one btw. Yeah the answers were out their but they may not been as blunt as others would like. Thier was thigns that was said that i read up on that made me uncertain.
it was some stupid little kids who want every answer handed to them cause they can't take the time to look and read what is there. if you are uncertian then you really need to buy a clue or not mod your car.
isn't blunt????
Originally posted by Hector:
Well they fit. The bolts match up and it fits nicely into the engine bay, BUT there has to be modification. First the stock o2 sensor sits on top of the manifold. The one on the header is on the passenger side. This would not be a problem except that the A/C compressor gets in the way. The o2 sensor has to be tapped into the opposite side. (there is plenty of space and wire on the o2 sensor) Also the hole for the original o2 sensor has to be plugged. Second the downpipe is not really shaped the same way the stock exhaust is. It is also too long. It runs into the flex pipe. Also it eliminates the cat so for the people that have to be emmissions friendly the cat has to be relocated. (have to take it up the exhaust shop, got a high flow) I will have updates on the modifying the header (hopefully later today) and the downpipe issue. I will post pics as soon as I am done, hopefully this weekend. This is definitely not a project for the faint hearted. You're thoughts and comments please.
Originally posted by Hector:
Why yes, I have updates. I am the 1st Contour with a Header. I took it to the exhaust shop and they tapped the o2 sensor on the other side of the Header (due to the spacing problem; look at 1st post). They had to make the downpipe and they tapped the 2nd o2 sensor. The hi flow cat was relocated in place of the flex pipe.
but you know what it took me all of 2 minutes to search for that and look at all the info about what is needed to be done.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Feel free to go home, when people are helping you and you don't appreciate that help, I don't think they could care less if you stick around.
Oh sorry Kremit you misunderstood me...I was leaving work & going home...
actually in one of my above posts I had mentioned that this would be done @ my dads shop...Body shop, not muffler shop...so the answer I was hoping for was that the downpipe would bolt up at the same place it does now(if someone actually has info on this particular header)...the flange itself can be dealt w/ & also drilling & threading for the EGR at the bodyshop in order to avoid a muffler shop.
But everytime I would ask someone who was somewhat friendly & willing to give info on here, one of you guys would jump in w/ your remarks and you know exactly what I mean. I appreciate help from those who can keep smart remarks to themselves...I mean if its killing you guys so bad when you read this thread, go elsewhere...its not like I PM'd you guys w/ questions...
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
so the answer I was hoping for was that the downpipe would bolt up at the same place it does now(if someone actually has info on this particular header)...the flange itself can be dealt w/ & also drilling & threading for the EGR at the bodyshop in order to avoid a muffler shop.
But everytime I would ask someone who was somewhat friendly & willing to give info on here, one of you guys would jump in w/ your remarks and you know exactly what I mean. I appreciate help from those who can keep smart remarks to themselves...I mean if its killing you guys so bad when you read this thread, go elsewhere...its not like I PM'd you guys w/ questions...
Group hug??? how 'bout it 'racing?
you ever look at the stock manifold it appears you haven't
still gotta mod that same thing to make it work.... the ummmm wait a second a DOWN PIPE
if we didn't say anything in these threads there would be no posts in this section.
like I said before it's all been talked about before...
a header is a header modifications will still be needed same as every other header. just as cams are cams they all work the same way they install the same same parts are needed to put them in same for cam gears too. understand yet you shall I draw you a picture?
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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
you ever look at the stock manifold it appears you haven't
if we didn't say anything in these threads there would be no posts in this section.
like I said before it's all been talked about before...
a header is a header modifications will still be needed same as every other header. just as cams are cams they all work the same way they install the same same parts are needed to put them in same for cam gears too. understand yet you shall I draw you a picture?
As far as cams go...they are actually a direct bolt in & I wouldn't need your superior knowledge(yes I do recognize that)...
I've looked at the manifold, & I've looked at the picture of the header...they look as though the downtube will bolt in the same place(length)& if thats the case, it shouldn't be as severe an operation as Hectors(I don't want to change the downpipe or cat other than modding the flange). Just wanted to know if anyone has actually compaired the two in person. Guess not...picture drawings will not be needed as I have come to my own conclusion upon having several ideas throughout this trying thread...I am at once frustrated, but yet relieved & its nice to know that a woman like myself can be treated just as seriously as any guy on here...I still want that hug big boy 
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Originally posted by SVZETEC:
As far as cams go...they are actually a direct bolt in & I wouldn't need your superior knowledge(yes I do recognize that)...
not on any car are cams a "direct" bolt on.... parts must be replaced on an cam replacement.... even if puting stock ones back in.... even more so when the lift and durations changes.... and when you look at the cams out there are made for a focus not a contour and do you know what the differances are???? I'm gonna guess you don't... so I will repost this info also that I have posted before:
difference in the camshaft,which no longer has hydraulc buckets,they are solid with adjustment by shims,which means the focus zetec has far greater choice of aftermaket cams. Hydraulic lifters limit how wild you can go.
and yes I treat everyone equal  I hate all people the same.
and as I keep saying there is a world of info in the archives and on the new forums about what can and can't be done. look around if unclear quote what you find and dig up an old thread if it's on the new site... go to most other car sites and you post questions that have already been talked about you your thread will get a nice padlock on it with the Mod or admin saying SEARCH this has been discussed before and if you get them in a good mood they may even give you a link to it. I for one think hector needs to start doing this to keep the 1,000 heard threads and the 2,000 exaust threads and the 1,000 cams and cam gear threads and the 10,000 intake threads form continuing to pop up week after week.
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Obviously you haven't searched or read enough. As Joe said and I said before the DOWN PIPE WILL HAVE TO BE MODIFIED, I don't care what header you use, it's not gonna fit the same on a contour block as it does a focus or zx2. And as Joe said, cams aren't a direct replacement, though I didn't realize that either until Joe told me, but that means there is a thread (actually a couple w/i the same week) with that info. Before I ever posted on here, I spent about a month just looking at as many posts as possible, I suggest newbies do the same.
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ummmm hey, i am new here and i was wondering if there is any headers that will fit the zetec? if there are where do i find the engine? thanks in advance.
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SEARCH!!!! Engine location has been discussed many times. And it's the same no matter if you have the normal contour or the contour with the engine in the back, since it's also RWD and goes in reverse the header fits the same. DUDE.
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I remember my first search. I was really nervous and it was kinda awkward at first. But after a few times, you really get the hang of it, you'll really start to like it. Until it starts to control your life; you can't stop searching. Eventually, it's all you'll think about: search, search, search. Until you go insane and take an MP5 to the mall and waste 34 people. You'll realize just before you pull the trigger to end yours that you never found any relavent information in the searches because most of the posts are wasted bandwidth just like this one!!
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I'll repeat this again....
The car is not in production anymore...
If everyone searched us normal people would have nothing to talk about and you Search nazis wouldn't have anything to b!tch about. God this would be a boring place!
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