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#717974 08/11/03 10:56 PM
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I went over to zxtuner and found some really nice stuff.
Has anyone ever used any of it. I think I might buy the 2.5 esslinger cylinder head. The 4-2-1 header, MSD DIS ignition and MSD high presure fuel system with 83lbs injectors. I want to run an intercooled turbo system but I don't want to run to much boost. 16-21 lbs would make it almost impossible to be a daily driver.


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First thing, get a MTX.
Second, don't worry about the Esslinger heads right now, there are tons of other items that would come on the list ahead of them.
Third, 83lb injectors????? NO NEED!!!!!
Fourth, get a zetec Focus, easier & cheapier.


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and its attitudes like this is why we have no aftermarket.


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Attitude? Its called realism.
Do you know how much boost you would need to run for 83lb injectors?
More than the engine could even handle.
Why would you need Esslinger 2.5 heads?
Stage 1 is enough for a small turbo and 1.5/2 will be more than adequate at power levels above a stock engine.
And we do have a good size aftermarket for a car produced for a limited time in limited numbers.


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i was talking about in gernal but if you want to get down to those mods then you do have a pont.


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ok, I said want to run intercooled turbo, not am going to!! READ the fine print! I didnt mean 83 lbs thats crazy. There is no reason not to use all the other components. Basicly your telling me not to make my car that fast, not to move the redline to 8600 RPM's, not to increase HP and TORQUE, not to make it sound better, I think you need to make sure you didn't lose your balls. What, are you worried about my wallet??


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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Attitude? Its called realism.
Do you know how much boost you would need to run for 83lb injectors?
More than the engine could even handle.
Why would you need Esslinger 2.5 heads?
Stage 1 is enough for a small turbo and 1.5/2 will be more than adequate at power levels above a stock engine.
And we do have a good size aftermarket for a car produced for a limited time in limited numbers.




You could've said this(above) instead of this... (below)
First thing, get a MTX.
Second, don't worry about the Esslinger heads right now, there are tons of other items that would come on the list ahead of them.
Third, 83lb injectors????? NO NEED!!!!!
Fourth, get a Focus



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If your not going to run a high flowing turbo system why get heads that will hurt performance?
Performance isn't about getting the biggest parts available,
its about matching parts to the application.
If you want to run an intercooled turbo with a decent amount of boost, the best way is to find a used low mileage Focus MTX.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out that 83lb injectors are complete overkill and that before worrying about the head the block should be strengthened, new pistons, connecting rods, and many other things would be a wiser first investment.
What's the fun of boost, if you have an ATX?
I never siad don't increase redline (although 8600 with stock internlas would be a BAD idea).
And I never said increase the performance of the car.
But if generic & outlandish questions are going to be asked, then expect to hear the smae kind of answers.


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The esslinger heads are milled to raise compression = bad for turbo

Plus why buy a header if you're going to turbo, a turbo header would be included in the kit.

Oh, and from a fellow ATX owner...have fun getting that power to the ground !


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ok scrap the turbo idea. just want to get a little more power out of it right now. later it will get the treatment so I need to keep the long run in mind. Heres what I was thinking about doing right now::

header, high flow cat, flowmaster series 40

intake manifold, intake spacer, throtle body, MAF sensor, cold air kit

msd coil pack, plug wires, plugs

cams, adjustable cam gears, dual stage dampner

relocate battery to trunk


How about all that for a start. what do you think?? any suggestions??


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