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Just out of curiocity...if you were given $25000 and a stock tour, svt or se or whatever, could you make it hit an 11 second quarter mile? what would you do to it? etc etc. just curious...
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Sure take 24.400 and put in the bank. Spend 600 on a N.O.S big shot. like a 250-300. Spray it once, and there you go.  Seriously,hmm Forged internals, PNP heads, UIM, LIM, custom cams, and choose your choice of FI (Turbo, N20, Vortech). You would need upper 300 to 400 hp. Plus the best suspension money could buy to put it all to the ground. AHHHHHHHH If it were only that simple. lol
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3L with forged rods/pistons/crank, and say 30 psi turbo (might need a forged block too)
and the best tranny terry can build, and a custom suspension to ahndle it
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youll need more than likely an awd setup.
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How much would a JATO pack cost? 
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Originally posted by dartsoccer8:
Just out of curiocity...if you were given $25000 and a stock tour, svt or se or whatever, could you make it hit an 11 second quarter mile? what would you do to it? etc etc. just curious...
You've got 25g's? Where do you live bro, can I have your address?
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Definitely use a zetec. The aftermarket is so much bigger for it that you'd have a lot easier time and spend less money. If you just need it to run it one time. I'm sure you could get 700hp outta a turbo zetec (completely built) on racing gas. Meguair's focus puts down over 850 fwhp and runs 8 sec 1/4 miles.
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trade in the contour+15,000 for a camaro SS, spend the rest on mods for camaro.....and you have a 11 sec or faster car
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I'd make it all pretty and leave the SVT engine completely stock that way it looks like an 11 sec car and people will leave me alone. 
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I'll have to agree with Kermit here, buy a MTX Zetec for $2500 and spend $4k on a low compression, forged internal, ported head, race cam engine...then drop another $4k on a t3/t4 turbo kit, another $4k for Terry to build a tranny. Gut the interior, upgrade the axles, and put slicks on it.
Then again, no one in their right mind would spend this kind of money on a contour  .
Kinda funny, I could have my tbird in the 11's for about $3k, oh to have a well paying job  ...
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
I'll have to agree with Kermit here
FIRST TIME EVER!!!!
Turbo Tom sells a 20% stronger block, that alone is enough reason to use the zetec over the duratec if you want huge power on a sort of limited ($25k  ) budget.
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someone told me it would be absolutely impossible to run an 11 sec with a tour, and i was jsut wonderin if it could happen. i guess so. maybe ill do that tomarrow. 
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Impossible ? I think not. The ATX Zetec's run 11's all day long..... We're talking about the 0-60 march, right ? Oooo, pwned! Tim
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dont you all remember the guy who does complete Cossie drive train swaps into mondeos? well a close to stock Escort Cossie will run about a 12.5 in the 1/4. you ca have cossie motors up to about 500hp reasonably. so ship your car to england and back pluss the transformation would be about 15K and then the power upgrade another 3K and you would have a car that would prob go tens.
think about it- a 500 hp. AWD turbo Cossie Contour. Life doesnt get much better than that!
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the JATO pack is the best idea posted yet, and probably the cheapest. you could probably find one of those for kinda cheap from military surplus, then use the rest of the money for an ejection seat. IIRC there was ONCE a guy who strapped one of these to his car and ended up smashed on a cliff, high above the ground. . . making ejection most definitly a must if you want to live to tell about your fastest contour ever, and it would be the fastest contour ever. . . . . wwweeeeeeee!!!! 
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Originally posted by SlowNfurious:
trade in the contour+15,000 for a camaro SS, spend the rest on mods for camaro.....and you have a 11 sec or faster car
Screw the SS. Get an 03 Cobra for cheaper. Can easily find a brand new 03 Cobra for under $30K. Then for under $3K, you will have a 450+ RWHP car.
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Originally posted by Kingpin:
IIRC there was ONCE a guy who strapped one of these to his car and ended up smashed on a cliff, high above the ground. . . making ejection most definitly a must . . . . . wwweeeeeeee!!!!
There was never any proof of that story ever happening, it's said to be completely fiction. And the version I heard, the guy was suicidal anyways and had planned on dying because the militray was going to tortue him and then kill him. Also, just an FYI, cars can't fly.
However, if you do try the JATO pack, let us all know, we'd like to be there to witness it, I'll bring the popcorn and beer!!!!
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Then again, no one in their right mind would spend this kind of money on a contour .
i guess im one sick puppy then...well, im not at $25G but i probably will be when i call it quits on my car.
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I wouldnt doubt for a second that my SVT wouldnt lift of the ground if I lighted off a JATO strapped to the roof. Well, even if it didnt or cant happen, it would still be the fasted contour ever, and it would be even better that it stayed on the ground. . . . cars are much safer on the ground. . . Still, it would be fast as he!!.
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JATO?? 
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JATO jet assisted take off. Were used on military aircraft for short take off assist.
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JATO -- (Jet Assisted Take Off)
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the story
"The Arizona (U.S.) Highway Patrol came upon a pile of smoldering metal imbedded into the side of a cliff rising above the road, at the apex of a curve.
The wreckage resembled the site of an airplane crash, but it was a car. The type of car was unidentifiable at the scene. The boys in the lab finally figured out what it was, and what had happened. It seems that a guy had somehow got hold of a JATO unit, (Jet Assisted Take Off, actually a solid-fuel rocket) that is used to give heavy military transport planes an extra 'push' for taking off from
short airfields. He had driven his Chevy Impala out into the desert, and found a long, straight stretch of road. Then he attached the JATO unit to his car, jumped in, got up some speed, and fired off the JATO!!
Best as they could determine, he was doing somewhere between 250 and 300 mph (350-420kph) when he came to that curve.... The brakes were completely burned away, apparently from trying to slow the car.
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Solid-fuel rockets don't have an 'off'... once started, they burn at full thrust 'till the fuel is all gone."
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so is that real or a urban legend type story. . . . 
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if you read the link you would have seen that this has been tried before in the 40s with first generation jatos with the pilot or driver surviving.
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Originally posted by Tim:
Impossible ? I think not. The ATX Zetec's run 11's all day long.....
We're talking about the 0-60 march, right ?
Oooo, pwned!
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HAHA!! BURN! I had a Zetec loaner while my SVT was in the shop. I honestly could barely keep up with a CIVIC HYBRID!! He must have had a modified electric racing motor or something, I cant imagine struggling to keep up with 85hp
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Umm 11 seconds?
How about spend 5 grand on my bike and have something that will run faster than that?
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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Umm 11 seconds?
How about spend 5 grand on my bike and have something that will run faster than that?
How about just buy an R1 or gixxer, spend no money on mods, and run 10's?
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Originally posted by CarpePoon:
HAHA!! BURN! I had a Zetec loaner while my SVT was in the shop. I honestly could barely keep up with a CIVIC HYBRID!! He must have had a modified electric racing motor or something, I cant imagine struggling to keep up with 85hp
Something was up with one of the car's or you're just lieing.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Something was up with one of the car's or you're just lieing.
Well its the only zetec Ive ever driven. maybe something was up with it.. all the cylinders were firing. But why the hell would I lie about it? A CEG'r making up stuff to put down a contour? Theres enough crap against all our ford cars that there is no need. Im sorry I found the GL to be very underpowered. (maybe it needs a plasma engine) But to call me a liar is just plain childish.
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I said OR YOU'RE LIEING. I know for a fact that my zetec stock would kill a hybrid and be pretty close with my mom's 02 civic. With mods, there's no question. That's why I'm saying something was up with one of the cars.
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Originally posted by Kingpin:
so is that real or a urban legend type story. . . .
http://www.snopes.com/autos/dream/jato.asp
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I said OR YOU'RE LIEING. I know for a fact that my zetec stock would kill a hybrid and be pretty close with my mom's 02 civic. With mods, there's no question. That's why I'm saying something was up with one of the cars.
Actually it's not as far fetched of an idea as you might think. Stock Zetec MTXs run in the 9s IIRC and assuming drivetrain losses of the ATX (which is significant for the CD4E (?)) and a mid-10 to 11 second romp to 60 is, in it's entirety, honestly possible. I'm not stating this out of the blue, as my mom and dad shared a Duratec ATX while I piloted a Zetec ATX for several years. I have pictures and dealer stickers of both cars if you're willing to argue a point of falseness.
Moreover, the two times posted on a new Civic Hybrid that I've seen are 11.5 and 13.6 respectively, so, although you have full power to argue that you can beat a Hybrid, I wouldn't quite go so far as to call it an "absolute kill" if you're only winning by a max of 3-5 tenths of a second.
PS In no way am I defending the Honda, I'm just stating my own view.
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Are hybrids available with a mtx? If so, that's most likely what they get the times using, so expect slower from a real life situation. Also I would KILL a hybrid (me not stock). And with less mods I walked a new corolla (more HP than a civic). So maybe a freakishly slow zetec 'tour and a freakishly fast civic hybrid could be close.
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Originally posted by CarpePoon:
Originally posted by Tim:
Impossible ? I think not. The ATX Zetec's run 11's all day long.....
We're talking about the 0-60 march, right ?
Oooo, pwned!
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HAHA!! BURN! I had a Zetec loaner while my SVT was in the shop. I honestly could barely keep up with a CIVIC HYBRID!! He must have had a modified electric racing motor or something, I cant imagine struggling to keep up with 85hp
that must have been the shittiest Zetec ever...a stock Civic is not competition at all for my car...even without my intake and slight exhaust mod.
My mom has an automatic Civic...I drive it, then jump in my car and I say to myself holy sh!t what a big improvement. It may be the automatic vs manual thing coming into play but her 01 Civic LX has nothing on my zetec. So to say that...that must have been one piece of sh!t zetec you had.
Although I could see how it would feel that way losing about 70HP and all your torque. But the two aren't really comparable
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Are hybrids available with a mtx? If so, that's most likely what they get the times using, so expect slower from a real life situation. Also I would KILL a hybrid (me not stock). And with less mods I walked a new corolla (more HP than a civic). So maybe a freakishly slow zetec 'tour and a freakishly fast civic hybrid could be close.
Yes indeed, Hybrids are available with MTXs. Granted not all drivers will go to redline and bang shifts every single time they drive off from every single life. I hope you realise that I was just setting the scene that it IS possible, not that it WILL happen. Just letting you know without starting a flame war. 
BTW, calling a Civic Hybrid "freakishly fast" is just plain sacrilege. Pure and simple. 
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With $25000? Buy the drivetrain from a C5, there was one sold on ebay recently for under 7K. Included brakes, LS1, everything... Make the LS1 fit under your hood and the running gear work. I'd guess the cost to be about $10K, it's pretty straightforward really. If it can be done in a Focus I'm sure the Tour wouldn't be too much harder, aside from the need to build a driveshaft tunnel (Focus already has one) Set up twin turbos and call it a day (probably closer to 3 months) Go to the track and surprise a few Vipers! Long live the bowtie powered Ford!
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Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
With $25000?
Buy the drivetrain from a C5, there was one sold on ebay recently for under 7K. Included brakes, LS1, everything...
Make the LS1 fit under your hood and the running gear work. I'd guess the cost to be about $10K, it's pretty straightforward really. If it can be done in a Focus I'm sure the Tour wouldn't be too much harder, aside from the need to build a driveshaft tunnel (Focus already has one)
Set up twin turbos and call it a day (probably closer to 3 months)
Go to the track and surprise a few Vipers!
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