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#696623 01/15/04 03:37 AM
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yeah, and im losing interest on my money too!


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opportunity cost!


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I do remember the creators of this group buy stating several times that "people need to come through" on their payments.

Now that everyone has come through with their money...you must come through with the kit.

You expected money and you received it, now people expect a kit...saying they will ship out in the next 'x' amount of days will not hold people over anymore.

Now you obviously have the kits completed, so get these people their kits...I'm sure attitudes will change when everyone has received what they've paid for.


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(im just an observer who checks in every now and then and im NOT here to offer my 2 cents)



could i see a pic of some of the kits. any pictures. im interested b/c i would like to see if the kits look like they are worth the money & trouble surrounding them.


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The kit looks very good, but whether it's worth the trouble is a good question,, seeing as only one person has received one bumper so far, I'd say they're not worth the trouble. A lot of people sold their cars before the molds even got made.


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Originally posted by RoeCyris:
could i see a pic of some of the kits. any pictures. im interested b/c i would like to see if the kits look like they are worth the money & trouble surrounding them.




HAHAHA! We would like to see a pic of the kit completed on a vehicle too! the only difference is that we already dumped a lot of money into this crap too long ago and all we've seen is a load of BS oiling up!


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Originally posted by tnovello:
Crofty is done posting on this board.. he doesn't want to hear everyone going off anymore.. he's frustrated.. and besides he's out for at least a couple weeks do to his wife being diagnosed with cancer.. though this is none of you guys concern he's not here..




Sorry to hear of his wife's illness, hope things go well for them.

Originally posted by tnovello:
I am the only one working to finish the kits we have for multiple cars.. i have talked to a couple people over aim.. I am working on getting the next kits out.. 3 people have recieved there kits.. the remaining will recieve there kits....




So what number on the list are we on then?

Originally posted by tnovello:
We will not rip you off.. we did not do this just to make money.. we are planning on getting kits out to everyone. I am the only one doing this now.. ONE person.. i can only go so freaking fast.. and i can't post daily on who's getting what when i don't even know... i know you guys are pissed. i know your frustrated. i know you guys want your kits.. and i want everyone to get there kits.




Posting daily is not required, but you frequent www.probetalk.com daily where I had to PM you to get a response in the first place. Once a week would be fine, or would you rather have us call you daily to interupt you while you are at work?


Originally posted by tnovello:

this was not my project to begin wiht.. chris was trying to do you guys a favor in getting you a kit no one elese would do.. now i understand why no one else would do it..




Ok, so you did not start this, your business partner did. Now you have two choices; 1) finish the kit or 2) return payments, but please dont do use any favors, after all its not like we paid you to do this



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but another little bit of information.. Kaotic Innovations is close.. done.. gone.. We're working to get everyones kits out in the next 3 weeks.. to finish the orders that we currently have..as for what number kit we're on.. You'll have to wait to find out. the kits hopefully will be shipped all together in the next 3 weeks.. I will update when the kits ship and not before.





welp.. seeing as you have to resort to trying and start a board war by posting [censored] on PT.. that's fine..

I spend my time on other message boards because i do.. i don't need to justify why i spend time on other message boards and not here..

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Originally posted by tnovello:
I spend my time on other message boards because i do.. i don't need to justify why i spend time on other message boards and not here..



these people paid you to make a body kit. since you are employed by them, you owe it to THEM to be accessible- it is your obligation, which comes with part of the job. and since it seems that you do not answer your phone, it is going to be necessary for you to continue to provide these people with updates on here. hence, youre going to need to spend some time on here (like you have been this past week) to keep people notified of what's going on.


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Originally posted by tnovello:




welp.. seeing as you have to resort to trying and start a board war by posting [censored] on PT.. that's fine..

I spend my time on other message boards because i do.. i don't need to justify why i spend time on other message boards and not here..




Maybe I missed something, I sent you a PM on PT, nothing rude or bashing was included, just for you to turn your attention to us since things were/are getting ugly. You replied, we were happy, all was fine.

Next day I get an email from Nirish, says to check out CEG asap, he got screwed, cars not done, yada yada yada.....

Nirish is flippin, we're all pissed. I make a post questioning Crofty and his integretity, I never attacked you personally. I posted relevant, factual information about our current situation with Kaotic Innovations with links to Nirish's thread so that everyone would see the truth.

As for a board war, most of the PT members were speechless, I beleive one quote was "thats F'd up". There was not much of a war going on, Maybe a USA vs Iraq sorta thing, I was not attacking though. Sometimes the truth hurts...... One person did say you were a stand up guy, again I never mentioned your name once in that thread I would gladly link the page for you, but it seems to be removed, how ironic.

For the last 14 months I have been patiently waiting, I havent said much of anything negative till maybe the last month. Why? Because we do not hear from you! If you gave some one you did not know $15,000 for a product, wouldnt you like to hear from him weekly at the least? Do you really want us to call, guess not, cuz no one's "home" You then come on hear saying that you are doing us "favors", well that is a JOKE. Seriously how thick headed can you be? Its like getting a job and your boss has the audacity to ask you to work, the nerve of that guy....LOL

I assume Kaotic Innovations was a registed Legal Entity with the State of CA. Well if you were a partner of it (I ASSuME again ), I would be considered a patron of your establishment and if making money for yourself is doing me/us a "favor", you have the wrong idea about being self employeed.....

I'm not trying to be a d!ck, but that has got to be the funniest thing I have heard from a business.


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