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THATS RIGHT, THEY DONT WORK, NOT AT ALL. THATS WHY THE ENTIRE AFTERMARKET INDUSTRY, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC SELL 'EM LIKE HOT CAKES, CAUSE THEY STINK. HUGE SCAM, FORWORD THIS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME.
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Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Just lightening a pulley is not going to change your quarter mile time, no matter how much quicker the engine seems to rev.
Um, No!
The quicker the engne gets up to the powerband,
the quicker the car moves.
Same thing applies to a lightened flywheel.
I dropped 3 tenths off my 1/4 mile with it installed (on nitrous).
Its not JUST that its a smaller pulley,
or JUST that its a lighter pulley,
or JUST that it transfers less drag from the accesory pullies to the crack,
its the combined effects of all 3.
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Originally posted by 4banganda5spd:
THATS RIGHT, THEY DONT WORK, NOT AT ALL. THATS WHY THE ENTIRE AFTERMARKET INDUSTRY, BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC SELL 'EM LIKE HOT CAKES, CAUSE THEY STINK. HUGE SCAM, FORWORD THIS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME.
is it like sarcastic?
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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Just lightening a pulley is not going to change your quarter mile time, no matter how much quicker the engine seems to rev.
Um, No!
The quicker the engne gets up to the powerband,
the quicker the car moves.
Same thing applies to a lightened flywheel.
I dropped 3 tenths off my 1/4 mile with it installed (on nitrous).
Its not JUST that its a smaller pulley,
or JUST that its a lighter pulley,
or JUST that it transfers less drag from the accesory pullies to the crack,
its the combined effects of all 3.
what he said... but then again what could all of us who own them know. must be all in our heads and the dyno I was on must of been controled by my mine to give me a gain too.
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I'll have mine on in about two weeks, I'll let ya'll know how little a gain I feel.  Hector, how do you do the UDP install w/o removing the starter? Thankz.
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You can't claim a lightened pulley changed your quarter mile time if the comparison also includes a smaller pulley diameter.
Come on, think about the physics for a minute. That's like claiming your performance in pushing a half-ton sled across a frozen lake was improved by wearing a lighter hat.
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Is that lighter hat connected to what is powering what is pushing the sled?
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well, as lighter you are, and less clothes u wear, it helps your performance in swimming or running, b/c the total weight is reduced; the lack of the hat does reduce the total weight of something you are pushing (true, if the hat is connected and is being part of the object being pushed)...
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Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
You can't claim a lightened pulley changed your quarter mile time if the comparison also includes a smaller pulley diameter.
Come on, think about the physics for a minute. That's like claiming your performance in pushing a half-ton sled across a frozen lake was improved by wearing a lighter hat.
you wering the lighter hat will not effect the movement of the sled however if you removed a small amout of weitght from the sled it will effect it  just like the UDP and yes the Esslinger pully is lighter and a smaller diameter
guess the quarter mile improvements that Sleeper and I had were a fluke as were my dyno gains too 
and paul if you would be coming to the national meet I would be more than happy to take my car down the strip for a run or two with my UDP on and then in the pits swap back on the stock pulley and see what it does, maybe just maybe it would make you believe that is what it does... however I bet you would say it was a change in temps or something or some freak change in track conditions.
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Back to the optimized-throttle-body-thing. $70 for 2.0hp and 8 lb/ft of torque is not that bad. Our cars really need torque anyways. Our engine has about as much torque as needed for a little car like a zx2, or focus, cougars/contours are too heavy. I think I might hit buckshot up for that.
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