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#560924 03/04/03 12:39 AM
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they cut the opening to get 3" piping to fit. also that 10hp they gained may have been all top end and it too could be slower off the line. and the heat soak is a MAJOR difference in your intake and the streetflight intake.


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Thats a good point.I thought that the street flight gave D Davis a 1 second faster 0-60...i believe i read that somewhere...At 60 MPH 1 second =20 feet. I think it would be possible to gain that much. So technically if he raced his contour stock, against his contour with the Street flight he would be 20 feet in head of the stock contour at the finishline...? is this right in theory....any input...i could be wrong.

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Eh, hold on. Let me clarify a couple things.

I have never measured 0-60 in my car - whether it be before or after the Street Flight CAI. I have never claimed an increase in anything other than horsepower.

Now, I did see an 11 HP increase, but you have to take something into consideration. I didn't baseline my car with a truly stock intake. I had already hacked up my intake (removed the resonator, pulled the junk from the fenderwell and enlarged the air inlet hole) before I ever heard of Street Flight.

My "baseline" dyno with my former setup netted 111 HP and 118 TQ. After the CAI it put down 122 HP and 125 TQ. It isn't all at peak, either. I think a stock Zetec will put down between 100 & 105 HP.

I've shown the dyno graphs before, but I'll put them up again for speculation.



...and tourman, the reason the gains are as good as they are is because a lot of math went into getting the length X inner diameter correct.

EDIT: Before anyone tries to be coy, both of those runs are with no performance mods other than intake. The exhaust wasn't on yet, the FPR wasn't on yet, the TB wasn't optimized yet, etc. I put the CAI on my car, I made about 20 HP over stock...


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Originally posted by D Davis:
Eh, hold on. Let me clarify a couple things.

I have never measured 0-60 in my car - whether it be before or after the Street Flight CAI. I have never claimed an increase in anything other than horsepower.

Now, I did see an 11 HP increase, but you have to take something into consideration. I didn't baseline my car with a truly stock intake. I had already hacked up my intake (removed the resonator, pulled the junk from the fenderwell and enlarged the air inlet hole) before I ever heard of Street Flight.

My "baseline" dyno with my former setup netted 111 HP and 118 TQ. After the CAI it put down 122 HP and 125 TQ. It isn't all at peak, either. I think a stock Zetec will put down between 100 & 105 HP.

I've shown the dyno graphs before, but I'll put them up again for speculation.



...and tourman, the reason the gains are as good as they are is because a lot of math went into getting the length X inner diameter correct.

EDIT: Before anyone tries to be coy, both of those runs are with no performance mods other than intake. The exhaust wasn't on yet, the FPR wasn't on yet, the TB wasn't optimized yet, etc. I put the CAI on my car, I made about 20 HP over stock...


What was your previous setup?


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Originally posted by D Davis:
I had already hacked up my stock intake (removed the resonator, pulled the junk from the fenderwell and enlarged the air inlet hole) before I ever heard of Street Flight.




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I don't think there's any way that a big pipe on the intake, no matter how weird, could cost you that much power, at the low end or at any end. Something is wrong. My first guess would be unmetered air getting around the maf, or perhaps a vacuum leak. Maybe the MAF is contaminated with gunk. Or maybe birds have made a nest inside that pipe.

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Originally posted by D Davis:
the reason the gains are as good as they are is because a lot of math went into getting the length X inner diameter correct.




That's the hard part (one of them anyway) about designing a truely effective intake.
I'm getting closer though!


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Hey guys, i have been thinking...do you think my car was giving me problems because it couldn't push out all the extra air fast enough...thats why it only started working when my RPM's got higher? like for instance if i had my resonator removed or something...that might help my engine suck as it blows....(get your minds out of the gutter ) What do you guys think?

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freeing u'r exhaust up some will definitely help. maybe not a whole lot, but it'll help some. if i was me and could go back in time in a large time traveling device involving electromagnetic gyroscopes, then i would have just cut off my muffler and left the resonator until i could afford a real exhaust, which i will be affording in a few months.


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You know whats funny about my situation....I put my stock air assembly back on and immediately, my low end is back and my car runs so smooth....What the hell is that supposed to mean? Thats not normal is it? I am afraid to get the CTA because this problem may occur again...Thats 150 bucks down the toilet....I am lost...My car doesn't like mods...that sucks..stupid thing

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