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Today I was bored and figured why not, I'm on a roll. Got the car out of storage last week, then:
- got a new Sears DieHard battery
- new tires
- DMD
so today I installed the TH fix. The revs hunted for about 10 seconds and then the idle settled.
I went for a drive and WOW, big difference! The revs drop when they're supposed to, which just feels right with an engine that revs up so easily. And I now have engine braking! I love it. As far as FTD (fun to drive) quotient goes, the TH fix ranks even higher than the DMD in my book. I didn't know what I was missing for the last 4 years.
Thanks Lance for the pipe plug. I never would have done it if hadn't been given the thing.
Kerry
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You guys have now seen the light! I did mine the first month I owned the car. I couldn't stand having the revs decrease so slowly, but I was used to a quick reving 4 banger also. Anyway, glad you tried it Kerry. It was really cool of Lance to bring all of those, for some reason I just assumed most everyone had done it. Now for the real fun, get you guys out autocrossing or running a track day. If you think the car is fun to drive on the street wait til you get it on a closed course! mmmm, the smell of brakes on fire in the afternoon just does something to me
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Yeah, it's funny how we all were skeptical about it. I didn't want to do it, neither did Darren really. I figured what the hell...I can take it out later if I don't like it. No way now! I really like it. Darren did his just after mine and liked it as well! Glad to hear you did it too Kerry. The only thing I've found I don't like about it is when the car is cold it idles really low. That first start in the morning is a bit annoying, but I've got so many miles on mine now. I might enlarge the hole a bit, but I'm certainly not taking it out! Do you guys notice the cold start thing?
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I'm in the same boat as Mike. I have been toying with the idea of enlarging the hole just a skoosh and see if that is more to my liking. In the morning on the first start the idle is way to low for mike liking (400-500 RPM). Sometimes it just plain stalls. I'm glad i'm not the only one that has noticed the low RPM on the first start.
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Originally posted by Darren: I'm in the same boat as Mike. I have been toying with the idea of enlarging the hole just a skoosh and see if that is more to my liking. In the morning on the first start the idle is way to low for mike liking (400-500 RPM). Sometimes it just plain stalls. I'm glad i'm not the only one that has noticed the low RPM on the first start.
Yeah, I'd probably enlarge it a VERY small amount...mine idles at no less the 6-650 every morning
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Originally posted by shotwell: Do you guys notice the cold start thing?
Nope, the car idles and starts just as before. Could it be that you guys park your cars outside?
I'm in a heated garage, so maybe that's why?
In any case, enlarging the hole sounds like it may help.
Kerry
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Hmm, a day later I am finding that cold starts result in the rpms being at 1000 rpm instead of 1500 rpm. Not rough or anything, but I wonder if this is bad for the car, or just worse for warm-up time and emissions?
The car seems a bit stinkier when idling cold but I could be hallucinating. I think it may be worth making the hole a tad bigger to see if I can get the cold idle rpm up a bit.
Kerry
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I'm glad everyone likes it! I've run into a lot of skepticism, but overall everyone is very happy with them once they relent. The holes are all 3/16". You could enlarge it up to 15/64" (that's what mine is). It was found that 3/16" or 7/32" was optimal for SVT's. My idle wasn't affected, but I did notice that it doesn't jump up the revs as high on initial start. -Lance
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My whole is at 15/64ths...hmmm that doesn't sound right Yes my car is parked outside. I've actually had in a variety of climates. Anywhere from 0-100+ degrees and it definitely likes the warm days better for starting, but it never really gave me any big fits at 0 degrees either.
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Originally posted by Lance Kinley: I'm glad everyone likes it! ... everyone is very happy with them once they relent. ... It was found that 3/16" or 7/32" was optimal for SVT's.
Lance: I missed the meet, and now I want one too!!! What do I have to do to get you to come down here and show me?
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