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My roommate has a zx2 and he was looking on this site and they were talking about a zx2 s/r beating a SVT. I was just wondering how true this is.

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I thought this was intresting too.

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This topic was debated a few weeks back....it became more trouble than its worth. Give me the curb weight, the hp and torque and any one here can tell you if it can beat it or not....But I have raced a lot of them on my friends track. Only one beat me and it was turbo charged. Pushing about 250 to the crank where as I am only near 225 (High estimate)
But A stock one even with simple bolt ons has never touched me. I have beaten them by 3 car lengths or more.

But then again none of the people who drove them are experienced drivers. If one was more experienced than me....he may be able to do better..but not beat me.

hopefuly this topic will not bring up "the beaten horse"




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I have a 99 SE....Give it to you this way, I ran a HORRIBLE time my first time on a dragway (spun tires, missed 2ond BIG TIME), and was beat by a blue ZX2. It ran a 17.4 and he ran a 17.1. I then came back and ran 2 seconds quicker on the 3ird run (see below) 15.4... (2ond run I ran a 15.6) I have no idea why they posted that. It might've been a 4 cylinder with an SVT body kit (kinda like me, but I might be up to SVT stock performance now with all the mods ) What is the weight on those Escorts anyway? I know the V6 Contours weigh around 2950 without the driver. Haha the Escort guy really could've beed racing an SVT with 5 people in it Oh well, mabee he emptied out his car and all he has is a seat That's why he won...


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I don't know anything about this S/R version of the ZX2, but the normal ones aren't competent enough to take out a normal contour v6 mtx. My buddy was going to buy one in 98 when the lease on his 95 GL V6 was up and he gave it a test drive. He ended up with another v6 GL because it felt stronger. I ran his old car against it when he was on his test drive and it ate the zx2 up every time. I suppose with some good bolt-ons it could hang with or beat a normal duratech or a weak svt.
But I have to say, that guy thinks a lot of himself since he beat a CSVT, its kind of flattering really. Now we know how the Maxima guys and the mustange guys feel when we talk about our thrilling victories. AND why so many of them get pissed...cars are such status symbols

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What is the S/R version. Does it look any different aesthetically?


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"I know of a guy in the K.C. aera that has a SVT Contour with a Vortech Supercharger I dont know what he runs but I've seen him SMOKE a SVT Cobra."


i wonder if this guy posts on here. i havent been on in awhile, do we have anyone here that hasa t/c or s/c car? that would be sweeeeeet.


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Originally posted by CincySVT:
What is the S/R version. Does it look any different aesthetically?



the S/R has 145HP instead of 130hp that the Zetec normally comes with.... Icaman intake can't remember who makes the exaust on them off hand but it not like the cheap crap ford usuallyput on their cars. and the S/R's with a good driver can run in the 15's without any other mods done to them. with a half way deacent driver the standard ZX2 MTX is a mid to low 16 second car.


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Originally posted by chrisregets:
"I know of a guy in the K.C. aera that has a SVT Contour with a Vortech Supercharger I dont know what he runs but I've seen him SMOKE a SVT Cobra."


i wonder if this guy posts on here. i havent been on in awhile, do we have anyone here that hasa t/c or s/c car? that would be sweeeeeet.




Sounds like PhatSVT

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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by CincySVT:
What is the S/R version. Does it look any different aesthetically?



the S/R has 145HP instead of 130hp that the Zetec normally comes with.... Icaman intake can't remember who makes the exaust on them off hand but it not like the cheap crap ford usuallyput on their cars. and the S/R's with a good driver can run in the 15's without any other mods done to them. with a half way deacent driver the standard ZX2 MTX is a mid to low 16 second car.


It has the Borla exhaust. If anyone wants one there is one at the dealer by my house.


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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by CincySVT:
What is the S/R version. Does it look any different aesthetically?



the S/R has 145HP instead of 130hp that the Zetec normally comes with.... Icaman intake can't remember who makes the exaust on them off hand but it not like the cheap crap ford usuallyput on their cars. and the S/R's with a good driver can run in the 15's without any other mods done to them. with a half way deacent driver the standard ZX2 MTX is a mid to low 16 second car.




Here is a little more info I found on another site.
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The S\R comes with a iceman intake, tokyo racing struts and eibach racing springs(1.7 in. drop), dual plated centerforce drag racing clutch that has 90% more griping power than stock, a visteon performance computer (not just a chip), a total borla catback exhaust, a short throww shifter, and some extras like a 150 speedometer, and other neat little things. Performance is above or around 160 and reports of the quarter-mile time of 15.4 seconds.




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Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:
Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by CincySVT:
What is the S/R version. Does it look any different aesthetically?



the S/R has 145HP instead of 130hp that the Zetec normally comes with.... Icaman intake can't remember who makes the exaust on them off hand but it not like the cheap crap ford usuallyput on their cars. and the S/R's with a good driver can run in the 15's without any other mods done to them. with a half way deacent driver the standard ZX2 MTX is a mid to low 16 second car.




Here is a little more info I found on another site.
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The S\R comes with a iceman intake, tokyo racing struts and eibach racing springs(1.7 in. drop), dual plated centerforce drag racing clutch that has 90% more griping power than stock, a visteon performance computer (not just a chip), a total borla catback exhaust, a short throww shifter, and some extras like a 150 speedometer, and other neat little things. Performance is above or around 160 and reports of the quarter-mile time of 15.4 seconds.







sounds about right from what I have seen them do at the track..... guess there is no way it could come close to an SVT being that after all it's only an escort with a little 4 banger.... that is about 10lbs of total weight for the car


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From Edmunds.com:

ZX2-

Weight: 2478 lbs.

Acceleration (0-60 mph): 8.3 sec. Braking Distance: 147 ft.
Road Holding Index: .76 g Base Number of Cylinders: 4
Base Engine Size: 2 liters Base Engine Type: Inline 4 -1
Horsepower: 130 hp Max Horsepower: 5750 rpm
Torque: 127 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 4250 rpm

19.06 lbs/hp

19.5 lbs/ft lb

SVT -

Weight: 3126 lbs.

Base Number of Cylinders: 6 Base Engine Size: 2.5 liters
Base Engine Type: V6 -1 Horsepower: 200 hp
Max Horsepower: 6600 rpm Torque: 170 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5500 rpm Drive Type: FWD

15.63 lbs/hp

18.39 lbs/ft lb.

Now I thought the SVT weighed 3026 lbs, and had 177 ft/lbs of torque, but either way we should be faster, look a lot better, much more comfortable, and get more women.




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Originally posted by bkent:
Now I thought the SVT weighed 3026 lbs, and had 177 ft/lbs of torque, but either way we should be faster, look a lot better, much more comfortable, and get more women.



5 of 6 are correct.

The SVT does weigh closer to 3000lbs without the sunroof. About 40lbs more with the sunroof.

However the SVT does make around 168-170TQ at the crank.


The being faster, looking better, being more confortable and getting more women are a given...


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bkent you know that's not the info for the S/R correct...
which I do believe is what is being talked about here...


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obvious he is using one of those g-tech thingy's...lol...i would pay to see him beat an svt 'tour....not that its gonna happen and then he woke up from his dream...........

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I have a friend with a ZX2 S/R with header/exhaust, intake, CF hood and NO2. Off the bottle he ran a 14.8, which smoked my SVT. Just a thought...


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and why did ford not beef up the Zetec ctours like this???


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Originally posted by tropicgreenzx2:
I've seen an SVT Tour run a 14.9 before, they are quick.




Heh heh heh, I dunno, something tells me that I met the fellow that posted this at Englishtown. Guy was running a T/C Probe and friend actually did make a mention of an Escort S/R. Oh, and the date I met these guys is in my sig. Wow, is this my 15 minutes of fame?

Hmm, maybe I should let the guy that posted worrying about the longevity of the 3L swap in on my current mileage.

Anyhoo, if this guy was "racing" a SVTC at a track, as opposed to on a public road with no advance warning, I bet there would be different results. See, that's the thing about random street races - you never know what the variations are. I know I'm carrying a few hundred extra pounds in my trunk right now (tools, etc.) and my gas tank is full. Not exactly in my quickest trim, not to mention the Blizzaks. But you better believe I'll have an empty trunk, Z rated rubber, and 3 gallons of gas when the time is right.

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Originally posted by warmonger:
I don't know anything about this S/R version of the ZX2, but the normal ones aren't competent enough to take out a normal contour v6 mtx.I suppose with some good bolt-ons it could hang with or beat a normal duratech or a weak svt.
warmonger




i just stumbled on this thread, so im sorry for being late , which is funny because i posted a pic of my brothers zx2 in the pics and vids forum.

i ran my brothers zx2 (non S/R) to a 16.0, bone stock. don't know the times on a normal contour v6 mtx, but it's pretty close i think. my brother has a 15.5 with CTA intake, JBA header, a Magnaflow exhaust (complete with crush bends, ewwww), and a pulley. it was also done on 17's, so i'm sure if he threw his stockies on and I drove it, it's capable of going a bit lower. FWIW

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Originally posted by EuroTour99:
I have a friend with a ZX2 S/R with header/exhaust, intake, CF hood and NO2. Off the bottle he ran a 14.8, which smoked my SVT. Just a thought...




Don't you mean on the bottle.
considering they are 16.0 + second cars that already have a good exhaust and intake.
Dropping 200 lbs off the hood (good for 2 tenths) and adding a header (good for another 2-3 tenths) won't put him in the 14's.
I've seen an S/R (My friends) with a 75 Hp shot run low 14's, and that was with a chip and UDP on stock rims with good tires.



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I have seen a s\r zx2 beat a svt contour that had bald tires and rims that had the wrong offset. The svt lost because of the start. The s\r's start was so good compared to the svt spinning tires b\c of the rubber, that everyone started to believe the zx2 had a limited slip or a atb! Nevertheless, I believe that in most cases the svt will still win!

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Originally posted by One Tan MDer:
and why did ford not beef up the Zetec tours like this???




That would have been nice....


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Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:
Originally posted by One Tan MDer:
and why did ford not beef up the Zetec tours like this???




That would have been nice....


Yes it would have.


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I think i would kill myself if an escort beat me street or track I get pissed if another csvt beats me


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