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Did you check the fuel cut-off switch? Sometimes they trip and confuses the dickens out of you. Reset it for the heck of it..!
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Please keep us updated. I only have ONE key!
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Check with a locksmith/keyshop. If you find a good one they can bring you upto speed on the system.
I have a spare key for mine, a non Pats key and the engine cranks but won't fire. (built 07/97) I always thought the PCM shut off the fuel with no signal from the Pats.
anyhow the local key shop here can re-do the system. May only need the Pats computer something like re-booted to except your keys again.
If you have access to Mitchell's manuals it's in there how to do it. However you have to have the password to get into the re-progam mode. May not be the correct terminology but close to the process.
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Yes the Pats Transciever sits behind the instrument panel on top of the steering column and is cabled down the Pats cpu just under the PCM. (right corner of the passenger foot well. Any activity in those areas that may have knock connector loose????
Also the "data link" between the Pats cpu & PCM (blu/gry pair) has a connector under the left side of the steering column.
at the PATS cpu it's blu/red & gry/red via the gry & blu and at s281 & s282 it becomes gry/vio & blu/wht then on to the "data Link connector. confused? sure glad I'm not the mechanic, of course he has a book as where "s281 & s282 is located. still no good at contortion
Pin 3 the blk wire (at the Pats Cpu connector goes to the starting system) have to monitor that sometime to see what potential is on that led.
So it must be info on the data link and the pin 3 signal. Still nothing what's deactivated.
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Originally posted by holycowSVTpaul:
Please keep us updated. I only have ONE key!
I was able to have a key cut for my E0. Started the car with the one I had, then started it with the new key.
No problems.
Later PATS cars had to be reprogrammed to accept new keys. Earlier versions don't, as long as you have one working key.
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Forgot about the the ground located at bottom of right "A" pillar blk/yel wire goes to a "shorting bar connector" and then a to blk/blu to the Pats cpu connector pin 14.
And two fuses are invovled f 30 7.5 A inside and F12 15A box in the engine compartment.
Why would want to add more confusion (by adding a by-pass module) to an already perfectly confusing mess???
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Jason which error code are you receiving?
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The CD copy of the 98 Manuals does say that the engine should not crank if the Pats (the proper American name "SecuriLock")does not recognize the key.
Looks like the spare key I have has a problem, since it cranks but won't fire??????
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if you have a 98 you can program your own heys.. I forgot how but its something like you put in your good key turn till lights on dash come on..stay there for at least 10 seconds take it out and put the second one in.. turn until the red light blinks twice.. to find out for sure go on ebay.. search for seller SandSlocks I think or search "ford contour transponder hey" He always had auctions selling them, and he includes instructions on how to program them...you just have to get somebody to cut it..ford dealer is best bet for that they usually cut for free.. I am not sure about the 99's and upp I hear they changed it to where you have to have 2 keys to be able to do it yourself..anymore questions feel free to ask!! 
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Hey Paul thanks for all the info. I will try to check these things...as for the non pats key or one that hasnt been programmed I tried mine before I programmed it just for kicks and it just turned the engine over and thats it no fire. But when I put my good key in it fired right up.. who knows isnt PAT wonderful! LOL I have my stereo out of the car right now and wires are everywhere maybe I yanked something loose? Poor Car I really missed driving it. I just put $1500 into a new trans, and lightened flywheel with install, and was having a blast driving it. I tell you the flywheel it a really good thing to do. i couldnt see spending $400 bucks on it just for a aluminum ring but hell it really revs almost like a sportbike now. I leave these Hondas so fast its embarassing! So until now I will just have to scratch the itch I have to drive the thing! Wish me luck! Jason 
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oh yeah I forgot.. I am recieving a code that says something like "No Signal from PATS"
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