Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Troubleshooting Any Way To Bypass PATs?

I have a 98 SVT and I think my car will not start due to the key losing its code. Everything else checks out.. fuel pump, spinning fast but no spark to the plug. Someone told me my key may have lost its code, and for some reason I cannot find my spare...soo it just sits there with a new tranny and lightened flywheel just begging to be driven hard! Anyone know how to bypass PAT.. I have a superchip in it..is it possible to program that to get around it? Thanks!

Pull the chip and try to start it.

You can go to best buy, circuit city, or crutchfield to get a pats bypass module. The module itself costs about $40 bucks or so. If that's the problem, I would say go for it.

The PATS system only interrupts the starter, not the spark. If the starter cranks, the PATS system is OK.

It can be defeated by grounding a single wire on the input to the PATS module. See the schematic.

BTW, the key doesn't loose it's code, the PCM is programmed to acept the specific keys made for the car.

Steve

Thanks for all the help guys I will try to bypass it with the best buy thing. I found both of my keys and neither of them work anymore. The SnapOn Scanner says that there is no signal from the Pats whatever it is, and I am sure as hell not going to take it to the dealer. I have programmed keys before and gotten them to work. I tried a key before I programmed it and the starter kicked fine but would not start the car. As soon as I programmed the key it worked perfect. I really did not expect to get much if any response to my post but I want you all to know I really appreciate the responses! If I could I would send you guys 5 bucks each....in fact if you accept paypal.. send me your paypal address and I will send you 3 guys 5 bucks! Either post here or email me at MrCBR900RR@aol.com! Have a great day!

Jason

Oh yeah PRoject.. you say grounding a single wire? Just any wire will do? Thanks

The only way to bypass a PAT is to go for a two-point conversion. Even if you score a touchdown as time expires, you are required to attempt the PAT by rule. Of course, you could always take a knee.

If you are going for a two-point conversion and you have a mobile quarterback, I recommend moving him out of the pocket so that he has the option to throw for it or run it.

In overtime however, the game is over as soon as you score a touchdown - no PAT allowed.

I believe that it was last year when the fans charged onto the field in New England after the winning TD was scored on the last play of the game. The team had to come back out onto the field about 20 minutes later to attempt the PAT.

I have always wanted to be one of those jackasses who provides absolutely no useful information.

Dave

did u find your keys cuz there's one in the steering column in a box somewhere to work with the pats. when i was getting my alarm done, the pats needed to be bypassed. they used a dei bypass module. i dont remember exactly which one.

I am not sure... Best Buy says to use their Bypass module you have to be able to start the car. So I am still out of luck.. If I run a wire from the batt. to the fuel pump she will run. If I cant get Superchips to program my chip (but they said they could) then I will have to put a switch on a live wire to my fuel pump and just run it like that. Thanks for the post though!

J