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How did ur dyno go today?? Post some numbers!!

Inquiring minds want to know.

lets just say I gots a little work to do now... once I can get my web page to let me upload the graph I'll post numbers.

Originally posted by Hector:

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Inquiring minds want to know.

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Make it stop! My Chem professor uses that phrase in one form or another every day.

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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lets just say I gots a little work to do now...

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In Adobe Photoshop 7.0? Just joking, eager to see the Zetec dyno.

Originally posted by Ausgedient:

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In Adobe Photoshop 7.0? Just joking, eager to see the Zetec dyno.

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nope don't even have that installed right now....

Just post your numbers, graphs later.

Um I seen you post, Joe where are your dyno numbers?

Yeah, I wanna see them too

doesn't sound too good, maybe hector can beat you now. (atx vs. mtx would be cool )

Okay, enough suspense - post the numbers!!!!!!!!

as I said I got a little work to do.

Okay, here's what I see:

1) It's a very, very scraggly line!

2) What's with the dip in TQ on run 2?

3) You might want to hook up a scanner and see if you have a sensor that's throwing you off.

4) How was air/fuel (or did they monitor that)?

If you cleared things up, I bet you'd see nice improvements.

Originally posted by D Davis:

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Okay, here's what I see:

1) It's a very, very scraggly line!

2) What's with the dip in TQ on run 2?

3) You might want to hook up a scanner and see if you have a sensor that's throwing you off.

4) How was air/fuel (or did they monitor that)?

If you cleared things up, I bet you'd see nice improvements.

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see AIM conversation I just had with you

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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see AIM conversation I just had with you

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and post that conversation on here.

I didn't save the convo, but it went something like this:

1) No idea

2) No idea

3) Okay

4) No A/F monitoring (Joe = too cheap )

That is all...

well, sorta hope he gets it worked out, sucks to have zetec 'tour get slower. Current fastest 'tour (other than sleepers) is an atx.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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well, sorta hope he gets it worked out, sucks to have zetec 'tour get slower. Current fastest 'tour (other than sleepers) is an atx.

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I must've missed that. Who is it...Hector?

you figure, hector has better dyno numbers right now, and did have a better run (on a bad track), he should be the fastest (other than sleeper), for now.

Only thing I can find on Hector right now is in his sig - 16.9 @ 82 mph.

Mine = 16.9 @ 83.7

Also, mod for mod I think I have one of the better dyno plots.

125.2 FWHP and 126.2 FWTQ.

I'm not trying to feud over it, just pointing it out.

didn't know your numbers, my bad... you're the fastest right now.

You're confusing fast with power, I think. I've never been the fastest and probably never will be since my car will likely not see the 1/4 again.

I have good dyno results, but so do Supras. I don't seem to have the technique to get her down the track quick enough.

Sleeper
ZetecRacing
myself & Hector
I'm sure there are other Zetecers that just haven't told us what they ran.

are you calling supras slow? i know there's some fast one's out there, and your 16.9 is respectable. Much faster than me.

Relative to the amount of power they're capable of putting down, they seem to let down more people than they surprise when running the 1/4. They'd smoke my car for sure.

Originally posted by D Davis:

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Relative to the amount of power they're capable of putting down, they seem to let down more people than they surprise when running the 1/4. They'd smoke my car for sure.

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Supra's are funny,
600HP to run a high 12, low 13 second 1/4 mile.

Originally posted by D Davis:

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You're confusing fast with power, I think. I've never been the fastest and probably never will be since my car will likely not see the 1/4 again.

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I'm right there with you D.
Soon as I hit 13 seconds with nitrous I'm calling it quits at the 1/4 mile and going for SCCA Street Prep.

1/4 mile is fun, but 80mph turns seem so much funner.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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you figure, hector has better dyno numbers right now, and did have a better run (on a bad track), he should be the fastest (other than sleeper), for now.

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UMMM numb nuts hector has ALWAYS had better dyno numbers than me.... and GUESS what he has never been faster than me.

and some things I have figured out with this...
1 my tach wasn't reading correctly on their computer.
2 I don't recall them doing any kind of correction to mine like I saw them do to others that dynoed that day
3 everyone that has been in my car can tell it has gotten faster just as I have... times at the track also have showen that since previous dyno.
4 until I can get around to dynoing at the place I normally dyno at I'm gonna assume these numbers are way off.

hey number nuts, i don't pay attention to your's and hector's dyno numbers like a hawk. and i would have figured it was usual dyno. i understand, just afraid of being beaten (by an atx).

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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you figure, hector has better dyno numbers right now, and did have a better run (on a bad track), he should be the fastest (other than sleeper), for now.

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UMMM numb nuts hector has ALWAYS had better dyno numbers than me.... and GUESS what he has never been faster than me.

and some things I have figured out with this...
1 my tach wasn't reading correctly on their computer.
2 I don't recall them doing any kind of correction to mine like I saw them do to others that dynoed that day
3 everyone that has been in my car can tell it has gotten faster just as I have... times at the track also have showen that since previous dyno.
4 until I can get around to dynoing at the place I normally dyno at I'm gonna assume these numbers are way off.

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Yep I love these excuses. You told Kevin you lost power because of a more free exhaust now. Um NO! You would lose torque (like I did). So with a modified TB, chip, and exhaust you lost power. I don't think so. They didn't do any correction, they probably did. Did you ever think that your "small" head gasket leak could be to blame? Stop making excuses and think please.

On the other topic, who cares whos faster? Comparing my ATX numbers and times to the MTX members is ridiculous. Considering the only advantage I have on the other members is the header, my ATX times and numbers are quite good. I'm tired of this.

BTW Joe you might want to change your numbers in your sig.

Originally posted by Hector:

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BTW Joe you might want to change your numbers in your sig.

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WHY those are still my MAX numbers...
and it was a number of other people since I talked to kevin that though of the uncorrected thing...
I hope some day you won't be such a dumbass...

ooh and hector your not doing a very good job as a mod... read the rules no flame wars... which you soo much like to partake in

I am not causing any flame wars I'm just suggesting to think about what you had said to Kevin. Your sig is still wrong since your current numbers are not those.

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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Originally posted by Hector:

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BTW Joe you might want to change your numbers in your sig.

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WHY those are still my MAX numbers...
and it was a number of other people since I talked to kevin that though of the uncorrected thing...
I hope some day you won't be such a dumbass...

ooh and hector your not doing a very good job as a mod... read the rules no flame wars... which you soo much like to partake in

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I don't apreciate being called a dumbass.

Originally posted by Hector:

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I am not causing any flame wars I'm just suggesting to think about what you had said to Kevin. Your sig is still wrong since your current numbers are not those.

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and it appres you are two dumb to take into consideration something someone else tells you. which is what my comments were which you call excuses....
like 1 look at the graph I posted you see the straight lines running off the side of the actual graph??? what are those??? did the ink run.... noooooo that's what you get from a bad reading from the tach... guess you didn't know that... remember when Joe dynoed at 500whp with his tour??? I do that was also from a bad reading where he had extra lines all over the graph from the dyno....
and those are not excuses... they are get this THOUGHTS.. ever hear of them???? some my own some from other people I know... funny how it's OK for one to make the excuse of "I got a ATX" yet anything I say is an excuse grow up hector... everything I say to come back with quit making excuses... can you type anything else??? I can... you think you are all might with your 16.9 running down hill wanna see how far behind me you still are come race me anywhere any time. I'll even do it with my head gasket as it is just you make you feel better since I'm losing SOOOO much power from that.
but since you are the all knowing one I will stop posting now being as it is point less trying to explain something to a brick wall.

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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Originally posted by Hector:

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I am not causing any flame wars I'm just suggesting to think about what you had said to Kevin. Your sig is still wrong since your current numbers are not those.

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and it appres you are two dumb to take into consideration something someone else tells you. which is what my comments were which you call excuses....
like 1 look at the graph I posted you see the straight lines running off the side of the actual graph??? what are those??? did the ink run.... noooooo that's what you get from a bad reading from the tach... guess you didn't know that... remember when Joe dynoed at 500whp with his tour??? I do that was also from a bad reading where he had extra lines all over the graph from the dyno....
and those are not excuses... they are get this THOUGHTS.. ever hear of them???? some my own some from other people I know... funny how it's OK for one to make the excuse of "I got a ATX" yet anything I say is an excuse grow up hector... everything I say to come back with quit making excuses... can you type anything else??? I can... you think you are all might with your 16.9 running down hill wanna see how far behind me you still are come race me anywhere any time. I'll even do it with my head gasket as it is just you make you feel better since I'm losing SOOOO much power from that.
but since you are the all knowing one I will stop posting now being as it is point less trying to explain something to a brick wall.

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You know that is funny BECAUSE I WAS AT KEVIN'S WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO HIM ON AIM. I saw everything. I never said having a ATX was an excuse. Just someone posted I had a lot of mods and still didn't have the most power. And I said it was an ATX (more drivetrain loss than a MTX). I never claimed to know everything and never claimed to be the fastest. You always say let's race, let's race but it is a different story when I see you. Oh well.

AND DON"T CALL ME DUMB AGAIN!

I have an ATX, I'm slower than the both of you and I've never Dynoed the damn car, so stick that in your no torque havin' exaust pipe and smoke it

Come on guys, can't we just get along. Wheres that Chicago love?

if i may butt in here , i think this place fubared joes dyno bigtime the graphs are sloppy and to me look like a bad hook up and i do not think they are corrected , joe's car definelty feels faster to me more now then ever and i dont drive it all the time so i can say that without being biased , i am betting a re-dyno is in order at finishline i trust those guys and ive NEVER seen such a sloppy graph as like the one from this dyno he just did . i do not put very much faith in these numbers...

Originally posted by Hector:

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On the other topic, who cares whos faster? Comparing my ATX numbers and times to the MTX members is ridiculous. Considering the only advantage I have on the other members is the header, my ATX times and numbers are quite good. I'm tired of this.

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Trying to figure out if this was directed at me or not.

Hector, I only brought myself into this to show Kremit that better dyno runs don't necessarily mean faster 1/4 times. I'm sure there are others here that just lurk and laugh at us because they're running better times/more power but haven't publicized their info. I think that your times - especially considering ATX - are commendable!

Regarding the tach being off: in the DynoJet program there is a multiplier they have to set correctly to get the proper RPM readings. Without proper readings, your numbers would be skewed in any number of ways. If everything isn't set right, you'll get incorrect readings.

And I also have the same take as HisSVT on this. That is the sloppiest dyno I've ever seen in my life (and I've witnessed over 600 runs in the past year). I've never seen the DynoJet program throw those straight lines off to the side like that - an indication something wasn't right.

SAE correction: This is usually a default. But if they're correcting a bad reading, it really doesn't matter.

Joe: Get the files from that place. I can plug them into the reader I have on my PC and see if we can figure out if it's all kosher or not.

Originally posted by D Davis:

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Originally posted by Hector:

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On the other topic, who cares whos faster? Comparing my ATX numbers and times to the MTX members is ridiculous. Considering the only advantage I have on the other members is the header, my ATX times and numbers are quite good. I'm tired of this.

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Trying to figure out if this was directed at me or not.

Hector, I only brought myself into this to show Kremit that better dyno runs don't necessarily mean faster 1/4 times. I'm sure there are others here that just lurk and laugh at us because they're running better times/more power but haven't publicized their info. I think that your times - especially considering ATX - are commendable!

Regarding the tach being off: in the DynoJet program there is a multiplier they have to set correctly to get the proper RPM readings. Without proper readings, your numbers would be skewed in any number of ways. If everything isn't set right, you'll get incorrect readings.

And I also have the same take as HisSVT on this. That is the sloppiest dyno I've ever seen in my life (and I've witnessed over 600 runs in the past year). I've never seen the DynoJet program throw those straight lines off to the side like that - an indication something wasn't right.

SAE correction: This is usually a default. But if they're correcting a bad reading, it really doesn't matter.

Joe: Get the files from that place. I can plug them into the reader I have on my PC and see if we can figure out if it's all kosher or not.

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I was stating this in general. Us ATX owners get a lot of crap.

On the topic, I just posted that the head gasket leak could have caused a problem. It was just an idea, and I'm sure it could have something to do with the numbers, IF THEY ARE TRUE.

the headgasket is not an issue for loss of power cause it isn't near the compression chamber. which means it wouldn't be causing a loss in power.
I contacted the place about getting the files like darrel asked me to and I have yet to get a responce from them on it. I also plan to get ahold of finishline where my previous 2 dynos were done at about dynoing just my car see what the price would be and when they could do it and to get an air fuel from them while I was at it... and that will be done before I change anything on the car too.

yeah, we do get a lot of crap for having ATXs, mainly in other forums (some svt owners tell me not to mod a ATX, well they even tell me not to mod a zetec ) i wasn't meaning to compare dyno to dyno, just if joe's numbers were right and seeing what joe and hector run at track, hector would probably be faster right now. i know there are plenty of trucks out there with 400hp+ that are slow as crap. though seeing as joe's numbers are most likely not correct, and people riding with him saying it is faster, well he probably still is faster.

I am in the Zetec family again and will never dyno, race, or cares who's 'faster'.

It's 1/10ths of a sec and it could change day by day.

And what's with 'dumbass' and 'numbnuts' comments?

Originally posted by NavyZX5:

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I am in the Zetec family again and will never dyno, race, or cares who's 'faster'.

It's 1/10ths of a sec and it could change day by day.

And what's with 'dumbass' and 'numbnuts' comments?

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no the same track.... the track he did his time at is a track which runs down hill.... his best on the same track as me is a 17.3 which is the same day I ran my 16.8
and the comments of dumbass and numbnuts are for people who don't know how to read or how to understand how things work where they had been explained time and time again...

this site is getting SOOOO old....

Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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Originally posted by NavyZX5:

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I am in the Zetec family again and will never dyno, race, or cares who's 'faster'.

It's 1/10ths of a sec and it could change day by day.

And what's with 'dumbass' and 'numbnuts' comments?

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no the same track.... the track he did his time at is a track which runs down hill.... his best on the same track as me is a 17.3 which is the same day I ran my 16.8
and the comments of dumbass and numbnuts are for people who don't know how to read or how to understand how things work where they had been explained time and time again...

this site is getting SOOOO old....

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Who is the one that was going to run at the track and didn't? I told you what I had read and you proved my point on my e-mail.

If this site is getting old then just leave.

oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

Originally posted by svtnos:

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oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

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Rotflmfao!! Werd!!

Originally posted by svtnos:

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sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

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Dammit I never should've brought up the Supra analogy.

Originally posted by AirForce:

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Originally posted by svtnos:

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oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

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Rotflmfao!! Werd!!

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

Originally posted by HisSvt:

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

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Damn dude! Angry much?

Originally posted by D Davis:

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Originally posted by HisSvt:

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

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Damn dude! Angry much?

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ddavis, i do agree with the supra comment (some with that power will run faster, but many will run what you said) and what's the deal with all the extra people coming here and causing even more trouble, i think the zetec contour owners can fight enough, we don't need help to do it.

Originally posted by HisSvt:

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Originally posted by AirForce:

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Originally posted by svtnos:

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oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

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Rotflmfao!! Werd!!

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other. You to need to get a Life. As hector said dont like it then leave. Dont post. Btw Byron is a NHRA track so its not down hill. Ask Joes brother who seems to know more about it then anyone of you to. You can learn a lot from him. Who cars anyway.

I "car" ,, just messing with you, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but in the small world of a zetecer, a 1/10th of a sec is everything,, i don't know what i'm saying, i should have my hands cut off so i stop wasting bandwith.

Hector, I implore you to lock this b|tch.

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Hector, I implore you to lock this b|tch.

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I agree.

Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other.

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Hey, I resemble that remark
my mamas in Tennessee, you talk any more and her and my sister will come down here and bite you with all thier teeth....All three of them

Originally posted by bk4293:

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Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other.

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Hey, I resemble that remark
my mamas in Tennessee, you talk any more and her and my sister will come down here and bite you with all thier teeth....All three of them

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LMAO@steve.

Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Originally posted by bk4293:

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Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other.

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Hey, I resemble that remark
my mamas in Tennessee, you talk any more and her and my sister will come down here and bite you with all thier teeth....All three of them

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LMAO@steve.

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key the banjo: ba da ding ding ding ding ba da ding ding ding ding yeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwww

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key the banjo:

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LOL!!

Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Originally posted by HisSvt:

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Originally posted by AirForce:

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Originally posted by svtnos:

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oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

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Rotflmfao!! Werd!!

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other. You to need to get a Life. As hector said dont like it then leave. Dont post. Btw Byron is a NHRA track so its not down hill. Ask Joes brother who seems to know more about it then anyone of you to. You can learn a lot from him. Who cars anyway.

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you calling me a hillbilly do i look like a red neck am i from the south mutherfuker, i dont think so but you bitches argueing about a goddamn 4 cyl family car . Boy all of a sudden you got big balls cuz you dont like little joe so now your gonna call me out bullshit name the fuking place and bring anybody you like ill stomp on all your [censored] midget asses the whole [censored] lot of ya. [censored] you and [censored] this site , get a [censored] life besides a piece of [censored] car. i cant believe you calling me a fuking hillbilly are you stupid you must be if you dont like little joe thats fine you dont have to boy you assfuckers sure stick together dont you.

Originally posted by HisSvt:

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Originally posted by I-Dom-In-8:

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Originally posted by HisSvt:

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Originally posted by AirForce:

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Originally posted by svtnos:

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oh man where should i start...

sleeper: show me a supra with a decent driver that is pushing 600hp and only running low 12s or 13s. im going to keep it clean and only say you will never know what 600hp is like in your tour.. keep hating

little joe: whats with your attitude? talkin trash to hector is real cool... i just read the entire thread and dont see why you started being an ass.. is your slow car making you feel like a smaller man then you already are and have to talk trash to hector to make yourself feel better about yourself? anyways on to the "downhill" track. what are you talking about? byron? that track is not downhill... i guess if it took me that long to go down the track it would make me tired and see things differently... either way little joe... you suck and so does your car. take your black silk underwear and go back to disneyland

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Rotflmfao!! Werd!!

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You guys are all [censored] pussies and this site sucks almost as much as you and these cars do.

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Go figure the 2 hillbillys sticking up for each other. You to need to get a Life. As hector said dont like it then leave. Dont post. Btw Byron is a NHRA track so its not down hill. Ask Joes brother who seems to know more about it then anyone of you to. You can learn a lot from him. Who cars anyway.

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you calling me a hillbilly do i look like a red neck am i from the south mutherfuker, i dont think so but you bitches argueing about a goddamn 4 cyl family car . Boy all of a sudden you got big balls cuz you dont like little joe so now your gonna call me out bullshit name the fuking place and bring anybody you like ill stomp on all your [censored] midget asses the whole [censored] lot of ya. [censored] you and [censored] this site , get a [censored] life besides a piece of [censored] car. i cant believe you calling me a fuking hillbilly are you stupid you must be if you dont like little joe thats fine you dont have to boy you assfuckers sure stick together dont you.

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Man Joe u need to chill and everyone else needs to calm down. By me saying "werd" all of a sudden I am a pussy??? [censored] you you fat bitch. I never said anything bad about you and your gonna call me a pussy??? Who the [censored] do you think you are? I don't even have a Contour yet I hang out with all of you because you seem like really good guys who sometimes have differences. But to call me a pussy is a shallow attempt to make yourself feel big. And guess what it didn't work. All you are gonna do is bring more disrespect to CCEG, thats if you are even still apart of it because of your so nicely stated remarks about everyone. Do me and everyone else a favor and go buy your [censored] mustang and get lost.

i have a feeling this post won't stay unlocked for long. what's ya'lls problem? and hillbillys are different from rednecks. Trust me, I'm from the south, rednecks are nice people, hillbillys are just stupid.

Hey I didn't have a problem with anybody until I saw Joe's post. Im not gonna let anybody call me a pussy. Plus rednecks and hillbilly's aren't bad! I never said they were.

Originally posted by AirForce:

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Hey I didn't have a problem with anybody until I saw Joe's post. Im not gonna let anybody call me a pussy. Plus rednecks and hillbilly's aren't bad! I never said they were.

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did i say hey phil your a pussy nope i didnt but since you called me a fat bitch why dont you try me you fuking dough boy ill kick your [censored] ass all over this [censored] state and back.

Locking.