Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Dyno and Drag Zetec in the low 14's

Originally posted by skid123:

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Just stumbled across this post and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. The Kremit guy really needs to put up or shut up. Talk is cheap. When you have experience with performance parts on your Zetec (real mods...not plug wires and an air filter) come back and talk. Hector, ZetecRacing and others really seem to know their stuff and have done many performance mods to their car, I respect what they say. According to Kremits sig he is getting the body kit so atleast he will look fast Your 96 GL ATX will be even slower with the body kit, so if you are going for performance....you are heading in the wrong direction. And yes a 96 Zetec ATX in stock or lightly modded form is horribly slow, I have one that I use as a beater. Since the Zetec has all of that potential, why dont you put that money towards a turbo

As far as sleepers times, congrats man. It's great to see those kinds of times out of your Zetec.

-neal

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i'm not saying my car is fast, so whether i have performance parts or not doesn't decide what i can post. and how will my car being slower with the kit? the back bumper will weigh less than stock, and side skirts won't add much more, most likely equally out to be the same weight (when you do some real aesthetic mods, then you can talk ) and yes my car is slow right now,,, hmmm maybe that's why i'm modding it and what money are you talking about that i should put toward a turbo? $400 won't come close to getting me a turbo and getting the atx able to handle it. though that is the future plan, modding is a gradual process, if you want me to have a turbo right now, go buy one for me. and i guess everyone on here will just have to live with me modding a atx zetec. (costly yes, worth it YEEEESSS). and FYI, i'm going for performance and aesthetics,, do i need to clear that with all the svt owners before i do it? go have your board meeting to decide whether i can mod my car or not.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

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however, when it gets the 2.3 turbo in 04..look out!

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Well since I'm in an argumentative mood and even though I said I was done with this thread.

Dan brings up a great point.

If the Zetec is so great, a design marvel, and such a great base for building power.

Why is SVT abandoning it for Mazda's 2.3L in next years SVT Focus and why is the Zetec in general being dropped in favor of Mazda's 2.0L engine across the board as well.
If the Zetec was "da bomb" would not they still use it or build off it's design???

To top it off not only is the Duratec family alive & thriving, it's being put into more makes and models, and they even have tentative plans for a new Duratec based engine or more hybrids.

Originally posted by DemonSVT:

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Why is SVT abandoning it for Mazda's 2.3L in next years SVT Focus and why is the Zetec in general being dropped in favor of Mazda's 2.0L engine across the board as well.
If the Zetec was "da bomb" would not they still use it or build off it's design???

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the new engine has much lower emissions than the zetec, has higher gas mileage, 2.3L which replaces zetec (2.0L replaces the old 2.0L) has more power due to more displacement.

Originally posted by wavrdr:

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Originally posted by Hector:

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You know now that I think of it many of you SVT/Duratec owners are (probably not intentional) ragging on the Zetec in your posts. Like I said before this is pointless. Instead of encouraging each other were are here ragging on each other.

Originally posted by wavrdr:

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If the Zetec was a better candidate, SVT/Ford would have gladly chosen it for the high performance CDW-27. The SVT Focus is a bunch a Marketing BS, it's slow! I recently had an encounter(rolling)with one, not a chance in hell could he even keep up with me. He did have minor mods installed(according to him), but didn't understand how he had gotten smacked around by a four door family car

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This bothers me. I have a whole lot less power (look in my sig) and I have kept up if not walked away (from a roll) with modded Duratecs and kept up with SVTs with my modded Zetec ATX. Maybe these Focus SVT owners don't know how to drive a 6 speed.

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Hector, not to rag or you/your car, or anyone else for that matter, but I consistently trap 12-13 mph more than you, and 2-2.2 seconds faster. This is from a standstill with 2.3-2.4 60' times. Now if one can hardly pull or keep up for that matter from a standstill, then there is no way one would be able to pull on an MTX Duratec(mine for that matter). I'm not here for a pissing contest, just trying to help with an extra non-biased opinion.

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Many Chicago CEGers have seen it first hand. I'm not trying to pull your or anyones leg. I am amazed by this car sometimes.

For those doubters, my ZETEC dropped 1.6 seconds in the 1/8th mile on a 75 shot. The math should put that as well over a 2 second gain in the 1/4. Zetecs love nitrous. I went from 105/113 @ wheels to 186/228 @ wheels. More than doubling the torque output of your engine is certainly worth 2 seconds in the 1/4. It should also be noted that a car properly setup to run nitrous is usually a dog off the bottle. Perhaps why his off bottle times this time around were worse than when he was all motor, and therefore setup to run on motor alone.

" Zetecs love nitrous. I went from 105/113 @ wheels to 186/228 @ wheels."


This was my initial point..that the degree of improvement suggest more than 75 HP...(even if using a 75 shot). Gain of 81 FWHP means that "75 shot worth" about 95-100 crank HP...which is about what I guessed..
If your ultimate goal is drag racing a zetec..hard to beat that if your engine doesnt blow..

Engine to engine the exact gain of HP is going to be different.
75Hp shot is an average, not absolute.
Some will gain 70HP, others 80HP.
I am using the pills for a 75HP shot, if i am actually getting a little more power thats great.
But the fact remains I'm jetting the same amount of nitrous as somebody who only gets 70HP.