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#468574 11/04/02 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ausgedient:
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Listed SVT Curb Weight: 3129
Listed MTX Zetec Curb Weight: 2603
Weight Difference: 526 lbs.

Not saying the weight difference justifies any times, but with all the extras the SVT has it is quite a bit heavier, regardless of slight engine differences.



My car is about ~3080 lbs with me and a 1/4 tank of gas (no spare or jack).
This is according to truck scales, so I don't know how accurate it is.


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Originally posted by Sleeper:
Somebody is not very happy with a Zetec running with the Duratecs.


That has nothing to do with it. Why would you even bring such an idea up?

It has everything to do with you saying a 75 shot took off over 2.2 seconds on a 3000lb car. That is not "physically" possible! (trust me - I'd have a mid 12 second SVT otherwise if it were that easy! )

Even a 100 shot would not cut your time that much.

For instance - Adding a S/C to an SVT cuts a good 1 second off it's time and that increases the power around 100 "at the wheels!"


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Demon I really haven't read all of the post about this 14 second Ztec and don't care because I know whatever they do to mod there Ztec's I can do to my Duratec and will always have more power. However I can tell you from past experience with my Mustang when it still had a 5 litre I used a 100 shot and picked up 2 seconds and 10 mph so don't assume it couldn't be true.


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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Sleeper:
Somebody is not very happy with a Zetec running with the Duratecs.


That has nothing to do with it. Why would you even bring such an idea up?

It has everything to do with you saying a 75 shot took off over 2.2 seconds on a 3000lb car. That is not "physically" possible! (trust me - I'd have a mid 12 second SVT otherwise if it were that easy! )

Even a 100 shot would not cut your time that much.

For instance - Adding a S/C to an SVT cuts a good 1 second off it's time and that increases the power around 100 "at the wheels!"

hey demon with only adding ~10WHP I dropped .5 seconds off my times got video and times slips if you wanna see them.... the first year I drag raced my Zetec with just exaust I was getting at best 17.4's added an UDP and a CTA intake and I then get 16.8... and you say with 75hp you can't shave off 2.2 seconds yet with MAYBE 10WHP I dropped .6 seconds and I have the dyno to prove my UDP gained me a qhole 2hp and 8tq have yet to dyno with the CTA though but I would guess under 10WHP for it goto www.myfamily.com log in with CEGCEG and password of contour and download all the videos of me racing on there and you can see what the times went from and to what I am running now which based on what you are saying to sleeper is my time improvements are also impossiable too... and I have a few CEGers who were there and know what little I did to my car to get the improvements I did...


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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Sleeper:
Somebody is not very happy with a Zetec running with the Duratecs.


That has nothing to do with it. Why would you even bring such an idea up?

It has everything to do with you saying a 75 shot took off over 2.2 seconds on a 3000lb car. That is not "physically" possible! (trust me - I'd have a mid 12 second SVT otherwise if it were that easy! )

Even a 100 shot would not cut your time that much.

For instance - Adding a S/C to an SVT cuts a good 1 second off it's time and that increases the power around 100 "at the wheels!"

hey demon with only adding ~10WHP I dropped .5 seconds off my times got video and times slips if you wanna see them.... the first year I drag raced my Zetec with just exaust I was getting at best 17.4's added an UDP and a CTA intake and I then get 16.8... and you say with 75hp you can't shave off 2.2 seconds yet with MAYBE 10WHP I dropped .6 seconds and I have the dyno to prove my UDP gained me a qhole 2hp and 8tq have yet to dyno with the CTA though but I would guess under 10WHP for it goto www.myfamily.com log in with CEGCEG and password of contour and download all the videos of me racing on there and you can see what the times went from and to what I am running now which based on what you are saying to sleeper is my time improvements are also impossiable too... and I have a few CEGers who were there and know what little I did to my car to get the improvements I did...
Damn use some punctuation. I think it is possible to knock off 2 seconds with nitrous. Just off my times improving and Joe's too. I improved my time of 17.6 to a 17.3 just by a TB and a little cooler weather.


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OOH and demon I think you really under estimate the Zetec.... I gave Rick aka buckshot a ride form gingerman to the hotel at Spring Zing last year and he thought I had a duratec... his exact words was this isn't bad for a standard duratec. he was shocked to find out I had 2 less cylinders and .5 less displacement.

and on the weight differences how much does your front and rear bumpers off the SVT weigh my guess is more than a non SVT's the leather interior well that would too be more that the cloth interior of a non SVT, how about the SVT side skirts??? the motor for the power seats too. you add every thing up and there is about a 500lb difference between a SVT and a GL Zetec. and the Zetec it self is ~80 lighter than the duratec.
demon you gonna come to Spring Zing next year??? I'll be there I'll race you and I bet you would be suprised as to how well a little Zetec can keep up with a SVT. ooh and I don't have a bottle and won't be getting one either.


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Please for the sake of everybody driving Zetecs, don't try to make a Zetec contour out to be something it's not...and don't challenge a car that is over 2 seconds quicker than you to a race for the sake of Zetec pride. Joe you've done a nice job with your Zetec, two thumbs up, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell you'd stand up to a equally prepped SVT. Reality!

Your last post sounds almost like ricer, Hondababble. "My VTEC can whup your GT Rustang..."


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Originally posted by Blackie:
Please for the sake of everybody driving Zetecs, don't try to make a Zetec contour out to be something it's not...and don't challenge a car that is over 2 seconds quicker than you to a race for the sake of Zetec pride. Joe you've done a nice job with your Zetec, two thumbs up, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell you'd stand up to a equally prepped SVT. Reality!

Your last post sounds almost like ricer, Hondababble. "My VTEC can whup your GT Rustang..."
Jeez what is up with this post? What is wrong with having Zetec pride? It is a quality engine.

Well Sleeper having nitrous (and a Zetec) and running 14.4 when the fastest Duratec (and Contour) ran a 13.8 is impressive. Why must you put all us Zetec owners down? At Gingerman there were SVTs that were trying to KEEP up with my Zetec. I passed a few of them too. So what is your point? Not only that I was only pushing 111 HP to the wheels at the time. What is a stock SVT? 160 or so?


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Nothin wrong with Zetec pride!
I love my Zetec much more than my duratec. I just think with as hard as everybody is workin to earn some respect for the Zetec from the Duratec croud. Posts like that last one take us a step in the wrong direction when the race is an obvious non-contest.


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Originally posted by Blackie:
Nothin wrong with Zetec pride!
I love my Zetec much more than my duratec. I just think with as hard as everybody is workin to earn some respect for the Zetec from the Duratec croud. Posts like that last one take us a step in the wrong direction when the race is an obvious non-contest.
No problem, we just have to take them to the road course.


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