Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Dyno and Drag Zetec in the low 14's

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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never did i say a stock zetec was stronger or faster than a duratec, never did i say it won't cost money to mod it.
i proved my point that a zetec is just as good if not better. (more modded n/a power than duratecs can obtain and a zetec with less than $1000 worth of mods is beating modded svt times, and the car still cost much less than a svt)

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There you said it!
Sleeper- If you ran those times NICE RUN!!!!!! Get it on video and shut these people up! What happened on the 16 second run?

Kremit- If the Zetec is a better engine, why didn't they extrudehone it and throw it and put it in the SVT? Shouldn't the Duratec motor cost less? Wouldn't the Zetec be the optional motor?
If the SVT or the normal Duratec motor for that matter were the same price, would you have stiil purchased the Zetec? If you had a Duratec would you swap it for a Zetec?
I can't figure out what your point is. If you don't think the zetec is better of faster, then why are we having this conversation? BOTH ENGINES ARE STRONG AND CAN BE MADE MORE POWERFUL!! I have no problem with a Zetec being fast if not faster than any SVT ever made, but i want to see more than paper to prove it.

We all need to come together and support our cars, no matter what engine. Lord knows no one else does!

Originally posted by AgFrost:

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Sleeper- If you ran those times NICE RUN!!!!!! Get it on video and shut these people up! What happened on the 16 second run?

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that is an off the bottle run.

i never said the duratec is a bad engine and i feel i'm allowed to talk about the facts (never did i claim MY zetec is fast or anything remotely like that) ford obviously wasn't trying to get the biggest performance available from any engine with the svt contour, otherwise it would have a turbo,etc. and more than 200hp, so they basically used the duratec because it is already closer to their goal of 200hp than the zetec is (and zetec would have cost more engine wise to get that much power) i also take pride in my ride, but am told by certain members (blackie) that i'm never gonna have money to mod my car and am basically attacked for modding a zetec. and the svt focus has 30 less hp than your car, did you expect it to stomp you? and in my opinion the zetec is more desireable for modding,, oh and i have reasons, main one being that there are more performance parts available for it and it has made more n/a power than n/a duratecs. and like i said if money does have a place in it, then if i had the money a svt cost and i spent it on a 96 zetec, i could easily run circles around duratecs. i didn't tell anyone they don't know what they're talking about, though they have told me that and some have not modded their contour(s). i'm just a little perturbed that svt owners don't like the fact that i modded a zetec to be faster than a duratec. i have plenty of reasons to prefer a zetec over a duratec (trust me, i've thought this out, i could have a svt if i wasn't going to mod it ((all money would being paying for the svt))). i like having more parts available for my engine, i like having more engine bay room for say, a turbo, and i like that zetecs have made more n/a power than duratecs. now, tell me why i shouldn't mod a zetec???

already answered your first few questions why duratec is in svt. i would still have purchased the zetec if duratecs were same price and IF i planned to mod it (which i do). and if you want to see more than paper to prove it, go watch sleeper run, go watch the meguair's focus run, go watch the esslinger zx2 run,,, and there are many zx2,zx3,zx5s out there with turbos,etc. that can kill any contour. i think both engines are good and powerful, if you want to keep it stock or near stock, duratec is the way to go. if you want most n/a power zetec is way to go, and if you want a full out drag car w/ turbo,etc. zetec is way to go, especially over a svt (will save you money) IMO zetec = better for modding due to parts availability, proven power, and a few other reasons. now, why can't i mod my zetec and be proud of it? it seems on here, everybody thinks only a svt should be modded and be proud and fast.

You know now that I think of it many of you SVT/Duratec owners are (probably not intentional) ragging on the Zetec in your posts. Like I said before this is pointless. Instead of encouraging each other were are here ragging on each other.

Originally posted by wavrdr:

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If the Zetec was a better candidate, SVT/Ford would have gladly chosen it for the high performance CDW-27. The SVT Focus is a bunch a Marketing BS, it's slow! I recently had an encounter(rolling)with one, not a chance in hell could he even keep up with me. He did have minor mods installed(according to him), but didn't understand how he had gotten smacked around by a four door family car

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This bothers me. I have a whole lot less power (look in my sig) and I have kept up if not walked away (from a roll) with modded Duratecs and kept up with SVTs with my modded Zetec ATX. Maybe these Focus SVT owners don't know how to drive a 6 speed.

focus svt vs. contour svt is a driver's race, though a good driver in both cars would drive the contour faster ,but for the 30hp more it wouldn't be much faster.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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focus svt vs. contour svt is a driver's race, though a good driver in both cars would drive the contour faster ,but for the 30hp more it wouldn't be much faster.

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SVT Contour - 200HP and more torque Focus SVT - 170HP and lighter car ......Contour is going to win everytime due to the torque advantage, but it would still be close with good drivers.

Originally posted by Hector:

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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focus svt vs. contour svt is a driver's race, though a good driver in both cars would drive the contour faster ,but for the 30hp more it wouldn't be much faster.

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SVT Contour - 200HP and more torque Focus SVT - 170HP and lighter car ......Contour is going to win everytime due to the torque advantage, but it would still be close with good drivers.

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BINGO..... just like I have seen a few WS6 T/A's run 15's and all of them were 6 speeds.... reason is most people seem to freak out with all those gears. and everyone knows they should be running mid to high 13's stock.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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i'm just a little perturbed that svt owners don't like the fact that i modded a zetec to be faster than a duratec.

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In your head it's like you already did it is'nt it...

"Mentally modded zetec"

Originally posted by Hector:

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This bothers me. I have a whole lot less power (look in my sig) and I have kept up if not walked away (from a roll) with modded Duratecs and kept up with SVTs with my modded Zetec ATX. Maybe these Focus SVT owners don't know how to drive a 6 speed.

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Kept up with SVTs...with a 50 HP deficit (vs stock SVT) and a CD4E?? You must be a simply amazing driver.

Focus SVT has run consistantly slow in C&D, R&T, SCC..all about 15.8-16.0 sec...Contour SVT was consistantly around 15.4..yes its bench racing but you are talking experienced drivers, same for each car, in at least different venues. When you throw in power to weight..you see why..
CSVT(3050lbs/200HP )= 15.3 lb/HP and FSVT (2800lbs/170HP)= 16.4 lb/HP. So, not really a drivers race unless one is MUCH better than the other.

On the road coures..FSVT has bigger brakes & wider wheels/slightly better handling..this would be a drivers race.

however, when it gets the 2.3 turbo in 04..look out!