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#467647 01/31/03 02:06 PM
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I agree, once I put them in the car, they don't match at all. Unfortunately, I too will be sending mine back for replacement.
The downside is that they will probably never do mats for us again.


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Any news on the situation?


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#467649 02/03/03 11:52 PM
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i havent heard anything yet... i will go ahead and call again tomorrow, \ i will post with any info that i get then....


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I call off my dibs on the floormats Markus, don't want gray mats... thanks though


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#467651 02/06/03 03:07 AM
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ttt.....so what am i supposed to do with my grey mats?


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#467652 02/07/03 10:54 AM
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Hey everyone, I happen to have a free moment here. I'm sitting in an internet cafe in Podgorica, Montenegro and thought I'd check in with the CEG.

While out here I received the following email from Falcon:

"Josh,

This is in reply to your concern about the carpet color of your SVT Contour floor mats. We checked our production records and can confirm that the carpet used for this order is from the same carpet roll and dye lot as the previous SVT order placed by Bill Jenkins at Sentry South Lincoln Mercury.

The reason some owners are questioning the floor mat carpet color can be answered by the following situations.

1. Our experience in matching carpet colors has revealed quite noticeable inconsistencies in OEM carpet color shades from one vehicle to the next. For various programs we receive master OEM carpet samples from the car manufacturers (Ford, GM, etc.) and match our carpet to their master. When we go to the real world of actual carpet installed in the vehicles we find that very seldom does the OEM carpet match the vehicles carpet exactly. We find the greatest variances occurring in Ford Motor Company vehicles. For example, I recently went to a local Lincoln dealer to check the color and pattern for a Lincoln LS program we are working on. There were three LS vehicles in a row, all with the same color interior. Each vehicle had a different shade of carpet and none of them exactly matched the OEM master sample we were given.

2. The carpet color in any vehicle will change as the vehicle ages. Sunlight, cleaning, even just normal exposure to air will alter the shade of any carpet. Since Ford Contours are a minimum of three years old these natural shading changes are sure to have taken place.

Our 22oz. carpet, full binding, direct embroidery and aggressive nibbed backing combine to produce what we believe is the highest quality floor mat available. The carpet used for your order had been matched to a master sample but with the combination of factors noted above (varying original carpet shading and the age of the vehicles), we would be unable to guarantee an exact floor mat color match to any particular vehicles carpet.

Regards,

Grant McCormick
Falcon Enterprises"


I have to say, as the days passed and right before I left for my trip the mats they shipped seemed to change color slightly and look more and more like the color sample. As you can see from the email from Falcon, it doesn't look like we can get a refund or have them remanufactured because they used the correct pre-approved carpet color based on the sample they sent.

Now you can all blame me for this, but in my own defense I have to say that at the time the sample (which was a 6"x4" piece of carpet)looked like a very good, though not perfect, match to the carpet in my car. On top of that, the comments from the previous purchasers of these mats all stated that they were very satisfied with their purchase and this led me to believe that these were indeed a good match.

I am bummed that this is the way this all fell out- it makes me look like an a-hole who screwed up, but there isn't much I can do and I don't know what I could have done differently. (And to boot, my mats don't match closely either and like some of you I spent the money for 2 sets.)

Despite the difficulty in getting a close match in the color for these mats, Falcon and their rep, Grant McCormick, have been very professional and understanding throughout the process. I would still recommend doing business with them.

I know you are all probably some where between bummed and pissed about this so feel free to vent your frustrations with me over PM or the thread.


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so miracoulously all the interior in my car has faded to exact same damn shade, so my 80 bucks is down the drain....man please.



i am just gonna leave it at this, before i say something that gets me in trouble with lance or somebody...


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i would rather have mats period then matsd with giant holes in them.... thanks for the GB SVTdc, i can live with them....


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When I first got mine via UPS, I thought they looked pretty grey. After I placed them in the car for a test, they really don't look that bad. There is a subtle difference between the actual carpet and the mats, but it is acceptable to me. And like said above, they are 1000% better than mats with a hole in them from working the clutch all the time.

All in all, I am satisfied with the Group Buy and thank you for putting this together.



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SVTDC, my mats fit the retainer pin and don't slip around under my feet. That alone would have been enough for me, but also considering the fact that I had no SVT mats (the seller threw in cheap gray ones, literally). The dark denim blue ones from ford parts online weren't SVT and didn't hook on to the floor pin or really match the interior. So for what I have now compared to what I had I'm cool with them. Plus not having had any originals for comparison definitely makes them easy to accept. Also, Grant makes a good point about the carpet and backing quality of these mats they're much higher quality than the mats I mention in this post.

Thank you for your time and effort.

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