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except for certian classic cars from ths sixtys fords lick the male lower extremity. the GT40 was and still is an excellent automobile, and anything shelby touched are of course great cars. These days the only thing which ford makes that remotly resembles a drag car is the mustang and that cant touch a camaro. I know you are all going to tell me "well.. mustang special vehicle teams has a car with an engine that i dont know how it works has this and that bolted to it, i dont know what any of them are or how they work, but it has 390 or 400 somthing HP(whatever that is) and it can beat a camaro" if you want to talk limited production suck on the '99 ZL1 it comes with a 572c.i.(thats 9.3L for losers) V8 with 770 HP and un imaginable torque runs from 0 to 60 in 2.7 seconds and gets a 10.4 in the 1/4. So pease get your family, soccor mom, almost mini van, grocery getters off of the track.

Um, the ZL-1 Camaro was a one-off prototype built by John Moss. It doesn't qualify as a limited run car because it isn't even street legal.

i guess i cant really argue you there, but we can just look at the ZL1 of '69 all aluminum 427 12:1 compression just under 600 HP from the factory, ford cant touch that. One other arguement, try rebuilding a ford smallblock then a chevy i can tell you which is better

Yeah, they were great cars, all 69 of them. Problem was, noone wanted to plunk down $7,200+ for a Camaro back in '69.

Oh, and it was only 430 Bhp and 450 pounds of torque, which is "under the 600" you mentioned.

Tommy's schoolin' the troll

We don't really like trolls here, maybe if you have something intelligent to discuss here real quick you'll avoid getting the post locked?

Oh, and BTW - which of the following three cars is not ceasing production a) Mustang b) Camaro c) Firebird

Oh dear, words don't describe your incredible lack of intelligence. I could probably count you're IQ level on my thumb.

What in the world prompted you to come on here and badmouth the blue oval? No friends I presume.

The Mustang still won the Pony Race, they don't even sell Camaros because they wern't selling compared to Mustangs. Don't get me wrong I love the Camaro (probably more than the Mustang).

Consider this:

Ford had no "supercar" like Chevy did with their Corvette. Ford had the potential to make their Mustang faster and faster without worrying about making it faster than some "supercar." Chevy couldn't put out a Camaro faster than it's own Corvette and sell it for way less than the Corvette. Of course we all know that the highest Camaro is basically a Corvette or vice versa. Chevy did a lot of damage to itself this way.

Chevy blames SUV popularity and that people don't want gashogs... hmmmmm there's a contridiction right there. They also blame the fact that people don't want sport cars any more... oh that explains why there's a shix load of Japanese sport cars comming over. The price was right but Mustangs still out did Chevy and Plastiacs.

Ford basically built a car that killed the competition. It's sad though, I mean it's great from the business aspect (i'm a marketing major so I love this) but no more rivalry. No more seeing a new camaro and mustang line up at the track...

Ford finally is changing the Mustang platform finally! Damn that cars been on the same platorm since the 70's.

So who's better?

Oh and why are you on a Ford Contour message board?

oh and isn't the ZL1 just a '99 concept car... and how much does it cost...

Give me some money and i'll make a Geo Metro faster than anything on 4, 3, 2 or 1 wheel.

Originally posted by fordistrash:

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So pease get your family, soccor mom, almost mini van, grocery getters off of the track.

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So i'm guessing you own a Camaro and got owned by a Contour LOL, it's okay man really just get some motion lotion and turn that frustration into good energy.

You can dissagree with my view of ford cars, but insulting my intellegence and social status, sounds like you dont have an actual arguement. As to the 430HP on the ZL1,it was under rated for insurance purposes. 430 was also the rating on the stock L71 427. I also think you all are missing my point. I have 2 main problems with fords. A) the contour is not a race car never has been it never will be. B) Chevy smallblock parts fit all chevy smallblocks regardless of displacement (granted a 283 crank will require some crazy bearrings in a 400 block it isnt ideal but it will work)not all ford 351 parts fit all ford 351s. You are also overlooking another statement i made. There are some cars made by ford that are absolutly excellent; shelby gt350/500 , gt40 , the shelby cobra (the 289 was an amazing little powerplant). I guess my real question is why you would spend a bunch of money on a 4 door car and all sorts of little kits and junk when you could buy a stock Z28 that would absolutly eat it.