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Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430864 09/07/02 12:08 AM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina F fst4dr_dup1 OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP fst4dr_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er F Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina	What a difference! Just installed some gutted and bored out secondaries and it made a pretty noticable difference. They were bored out to 36.5 mm and all the rods, butterflies, etc. have been removed. 1turbofocus did the machine work and has a jig set up to do the duratech secondaries. So if you are interested, he can do them. From the prelimainary test drive it feels like about 10 hp. All you boosted guys NEED to do this. Two thumbs up from me Simon new- '04 Dodge Dakota 4x4. V8, 5spd FOR SALE Black 98 SVT EO (#2119 of 6535)- SOLD! New project-'88 Ranger 302 swap.

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430865 09/07/02 12:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 339 B Bicycle019_dup1 CEG\'er
Bicycle019_dup1 CEG\'er B Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 339	How much does he charge for the service? Thanks.

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430866 09/07/02 03:39 AM
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 196 Chi-TowN C Chi-TowNSVT_dup1 CEG\'er
Chi-TowNSVT_dup1 CEG\'er C Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 196 Chi-TowN	now just put it on the dyno so we can see some numbers. E0 T-Red SVT '98 S\/T K.I.A 6/14/02 AIM: p0lskipimp

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430867 09/07/02 01:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus R RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus	yeah, since he is closer than SS, can he put the bigger butter flies in too? *Ryan* Trollin!

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430868 09/07/02 10:55 PM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina F fst4dr_dup1 OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP fst4dr_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er F Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina	I will ask Tom about the above ?'s when he gets back from the Fun Ford event. I should be able to talk to him early next week. For now I can only say that the gutted secondaries work for forced induction motors. From discussions on this board it has been said that gutting the secondaries may not be a good mod to do on normally aspirated cars. You will lose alot of low end power for a small amout on the top end. I will post back here when I find the answers to these questions. Simon new- '04 Dodge Dakota 4x4. V8, 5spd FOR SALE Black 98 SVT EO (#2119 of 6535)- SOLD! New project-'88 Ranger 302 swap.

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430869 09/08/02 12:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus R RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus	I'm not really looking at getting rid of the secondaries, just opening htem up a bit like SS does. *Ryan* Trollin!

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430870 09/08/02 05:13 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	I see a big problem with going past 34-34.5mm (99 & 00 SVT's only - others smaller yet) Why you ask? The head ports are only that large! Since the head ports would now be smaller than the LIM they would create a very disruptive ridge (atleast 2.5mm) protruding into the incoming airflow. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430871 09/08/02 06:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 339 B Bicycle019_dup1 CEG\'er
Bicycle019_dup1 CEG\'er B Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 339	I'm not worried about that. I need somone to modify the unique 95 lower manifold to at least late SVT specs.

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430872 09/08/02 03:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus R RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RTStabler51_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 6,760 On the short bus	that's why you get the heads / headers port matched! :-P Originally posted by DemonSVT: I see a big problem with going past 34-34.5mm (99 & 00 SVT's only - others smaller yet) Why you ask? The head ports are only that large! Since the head ports would now be smaller than the LIM they would create a very disruptive ridge (atleast 2.5mm) protruding into the incoming airflow. *Ryan* Trollin!

Re: Look Ma, No Secondaries! #430873 09/09/02 08:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by RTStabler51: that's why you get the heads / headers port matched! :-P I whole-heartedly agree. Thus making this NOT a simple bolt-on upgrade. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

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