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As most of you know I have been working with Street Flight on the V6 turbo kit. They realize that $5,000 is a lot of money to many people. Street Flight has told me that if a deposit of $2,500 is made on one of the first 20 kits, they will hold the kit in your name for up to 3 months after the kits have been produced. This may make it easier to get in on the group-buy-discount by being able to save up money over a longer period of time. They are also looking into some sort of easy bank financing. If you have interest please call Keith at Street Flight: (480) 615-4366.
2001 Lincoln LS8
1994 Lexus GS300
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5 grand is still too much weather you pay it up front or over time. i mean look at other cars they make turbo kits for them for less than 3 grand, why is this kit so expensive? they make a kit for a stratus r/t for only $2800 and if you add $500 more you get a stage 2 kit, which also comes with a air/water intercooler. i know you guys worked hard on the kit and what not.... and made it possible for contour owners to have turbos on their cars and i give you props for that but there is no way in hell this kit is worth $5000. good luck selling the first 20 kits for that much cuz it wont be that easy.
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Here's an IDEA Keyser, get a pic of all the parts, I mean everything from Turbo to nuts & bolts, put it on a work bench or better yet a nice white sheet, snap a shot and post the pic, Something like what Vortech does with there units. This will show exactly what comes in the kit and may help prospective buyers understand/justify the cost of the unit. Post it on the forums related to this, and any possible websites like Chris's. Believe me this is better than showing it on the car, though it's nice to see it there.
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Hey how many deposits are at 2500 so far I no mine is what the expected close> what are we lacking Keyser?
99 SVT #198 blk/blue
Spec 3/quaife/stage 2 shafts
T3/T4 fully built 3.0
ported heads
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they will hold it for 3 months until you cough up the other $2500 right? Group buy price? Are you saying the price is going ot go higher than 5k!?
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Quaife, lightened SVT Flywheel, SPEC stage II clutch, removed resonator, k&n drop in - various other goodies too.
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Chi-town
Thank you for the appreciation and recognition for building the kit. When developing this kit 44 people said I'll take a quality kit for around 4500. That's what you are getting. 2800? The headers alone which are completely stainless mandrel are over a grand. You will be hard pressed to find anyone using 321 stainless in their kit. The turbo is a dual ball bearing T28. Ball bearings are a $500 option on top of the cost of the turbo. The kit you see is most likely a T3 which is 3 to 4 hundred retail and is mild steel tubing. I could have built that but that's not what was asked for and you(I) wouldn't have been happy with it.
Micah-
You are not the first one to have that idea. The fifth and final version of the headers is being completed so I can take the pictures. I don't want to post pictures and then it gets bought, shows up, and I hear 'hey that's not what it was supposed to look like.' Very soon and thanks for the suggestion.
Burrita-
You I owe thanks to among some others for having the stones to put down cash up front. I can't answer your question because I honestly don't know. The shop gets 5 calls a day on this so you will have to call Keith.
TheGreatOne-
Unfortunately it seems that SF will not be able to buy enough in bulk at a time and sit on it. None of the major manufacturers would do this kit so we did. SF doesn't have the resources to buy enough material and then stock it. The price will go up because SF's price will go up. To what is not known.
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I think if you guys go out and price a "well engineered" turbo kit with quality parts u will see that the price isnt that far off. also u must go out and compare v6 to v6 not to a 4cyl. there is much more work done to get the v6 turbo to work. congrats to sf. when i can get a second car i will put this turbo on my 3L
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IMHYAEO (in my humble, yet appropriately educated, opinion) I believe the price for this turbo kit to be appropriate, considering the expected sales volume, the completeness of the kit, and the engineering having gone into the design and construction of the kit, including the use of high quality components.
Consider this, some recent research by a friend, put a similar kit for a 3-series BMW in the $9k range from a much larger turbo kit maker.
My concern, as a prospective buyer (too bad I'm too broke for this to be true) would be, to see photos/specs etc. for each component included, along w/ a complete list of said components. I don't think I've seen this stuff yet.
From what I know of this kit, the header design and construction, including material selection is top notch. The Turbo choice is excellent for proper size for this application, though it is also an excellent choice from an ugradability standpoint. The turbo itself is of excellent quality, and should provide a very long service life if treated properly.
Some of your points about price really aren't comparing apples to apples. Its kind of like saying, why the heck should I buy a $35k 2003 Cobra when I can buy a 2003 mustang for $17k paying no mind to the differences between the Cobra and the Base V6 mustang.
Bottom line, the kit price isn't unreasonable at all, especially when you consider the risk that StreetFlight is taking, especially considering the legendary fickleness of wallet from the Contour crowd in general.
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With respect Brian who in business would publish a parts list,specs & photos.......think about it from the competitions standpoint ...'yes please,now we can copy it all etc etc.......
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Originally posted by Terry Haines: With respect Brian who in business would publish a parts list,specs & photos.......think about it from the competitions standpoint ...'yes please,now we can copy it all etc etc.......
The ideas that could be copied by pictures are already out of the bag Terry, i.e. turbo selection/placement/exhaust routing. If someone wanted to copy an exact design, all one needs is to make a jig from one kit. So what gives?
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