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i want in, but i cant get in RIGHT now... hopefully this'll go into sept and i can get in on it!

Originally posted by highgeer:

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Are these the same headers that are being included/used on the Street Flight turbo kit? As I recall, Street Flight was originally going to use MSDS, but then designed their own stainless steel headers. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Finally, if they aren't the same, would it be reasonable to assume they both provide comparable performance gains? And will the MSDS be compatible with the Street Flight turbo kit?

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it would be reasonable to assume, but i havent seen the street flight manifolds yet. They are not the same, the streetflight headers will have a downpipe and turbo attached, additional tubing the msds does not have, since a turbo is driven by exhaust gasses.

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Hey Guys, here's some more info i found out...kinda BAD news...but it doesn't scare me!~!

These HEADERS ARE NOT street legal and are intedned for OFF ROAD use only! But Speeding and street racing is illegal too, but we all do it now and again right?!?! You might want to look around to see if a shop or you yourself can put these babys on! Most shops will do it because they want your business, yet won't give you a recepit so they don't get fined! Also, They will pass MOST under the hood inspections and i've never met a person that has had a problem passing any car with AFTERMARKET illegal headers, most inspectors don't know the difference. IF you are still interested, Please email me with your FULL NAME, car MAKE, YEAR, and CAT. Bolt Numbers.

I just wanted to let you guys know this! Also, the time frame right now...is looking like...well undecided...i have 9 people...but some might drop due to this new news! So we'll see! IF YOU are STILL interested let me know please! Also if you want in on this PLEASE email me with your FULL NAME, car YEAR, MAKE, and CAT. Bolt #! THANKS EVERYONE~~~
Email- Puckin_around@msn.com

I'm out. I am most likely going the gutted route due to price difference.....I would love these but...

I'm just being curious. I really want the MSDS headers, but can't come up w/ the $ right now, but hopefully soon. I think it will do wonders to my current set up.
Anyways I went to Sho-Shop site and they are selling the MSDS headers (off-road use only) going for $549. Please set me straight is that really the price cause that is a better savings w/ no G/B. I'm not trying to take away from the G/B so please tell me I'm reading there site wrong. Oh how I would love to get these

Originally posted by OutlawdSVT:

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I'm just being curious. I really want the MSDS headers, but can't come up w/ the $ right now, but hopefully soon. I think it will do wonders to my current set up.
Anyways I went to Sho-Shop site and they are selling the MSDS headers (off-road use only) going for $549. Please set me straight is that really the price cause that is a better savings w/ no G/B. I'm not trying to take away from the G/B so please tell me I'm reading there site wrong. Oh how I would love to get these

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i think this price includes the y-pipe. the sho-shop site does not include the y-pipe. you need to buy that seperately. please correct me if i'm wrong.

Thanks!

YEs Outlawd, please check for us and see if it includes the Y pipe...cause the Y pipe that comes with the MSDS headers...alone is worth 250-350$ Also i would like to see if we ALL can get a better deal somewhere else...IF it's cheaper....That is if it comes with the Y pipe! THANKS

OK SVTnKC just to let you know it's not "OK maybe we'll get like 10-25hp," I will make this very clear to you being on these boards for nearly 2 years, the MSDS headers alone will not give a 25hp @wheels increase in anyway shape or form. A more realistic set of numbers would be 8-12hp @wheels in all honesty. There can be a bit more had, maybe 15hp but there needs to be some extra adjustments made to fuel delivery via SAFC. I have never come across one person that has gotten anything more than about 12hp from the MSDS as far as I can recall, but saying 10-25hp increase really gives others an unrealistic view of this setup. As was mentioned don't believe everything you read and make sure to put everything you read into context like Dan Nixon has mentioned to you already.

Now MSDS does not sell there units seperately, so if SHO really does sell them for that price it should come with the Y-Pipe as that's the only way MSDS will make them.

What about jsut getting the headers, I don't need the Y pipe?

then get them from SHO Shop

Originally posted by obicanobi0:

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What about jsut getting the headers, I don't need the Y pipe?

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