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#28382 04/23/01 08:39 PM
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You shouldn't lose bottom end (unless they used oversized piping??? You don't mention sizes)
But you should expect to lose high rpm (peak) HP if they deleted the half U bend for the back (right) cylinder bank.

Merlin - My car only has 1 winter on it (driven sparingly) and I doubt I could get the 3 front bolts out of the cat. Look like solid rust! That must have been a real bear! The 2 bolts that flange the catback don't seem too bad at all?

I having a heck on a time trying to figure out how to just mate a custom catback to the existing POS cat pipe (has 2 S-bends and is offset for no apparent reason! Wish I had a Ford engineer to beat! ) and then be able to upgrade when I get the headers (they are 2-bolt vs stocks 3-bolt offset setup)


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Whoever coined the phrase; "If it ain't broke; don't fix it" ~ Just doesn't get it...
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chow:
no CEL here, just somemoe BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Have you been through a smog check yet? Word from my smog guy ( Calif) is:
if you alter anything from intake to last o2 sensor and do not pass the smog test, the max. amount you have to spend to fix ( now at $475) is waived and you must fix at whatever cost and you are classified as a gross polluter and may lose the vehicle if you cannot fix and pass. jj ( is Oceanside SMOG II ?)

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There should be No reason why it wouldn't pass a smog test. (High-flo cat y-pipe) Visual and sniffer

The "Offroad" pipe Merlin installed still should if the engine was sufficiently warm. (sniffer - of course not a visual) However he lives in Kansas where there are no inspections or testing.


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#28385 04/24/01 03:58 AM
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That is correct. It is expandable where you can cut pipeing and ad a high flow cat later in use. I still have an exhaust leak. I had some bolts that did not see to mount good, but look solid.

I tell you what I am suspect about the sound of it, but the POWER is noticable. I didn't know what to expect. Here is my guess for my dyno on saturday.

hp 167 tq 159


Well, who knows till saturday when the dyno chasis tells me
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There should be No reason why it wouldn't pass a smog test. (High-flo cat y-pipe) Visual and sniffer

The "Offroad" pipe Merlin installed still should if the engine was sufficiently warm. (sniffer - of course not a visual) However he lives in Kansas where there are no inspections or testing.




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1/4 15.564@ 88.24 mph
KKM intake/Custom Exhaust/Fog light mod /20%tint Dyno=163.8HP,148.5FT/LBS
CHIP Dyno'd 159.3hp 154.4tq 1/4=15.502@88.95
Sho off road y


Merlin

281hp 324tq
Timing 14' FP 36,24lbs,190lph,75Maf,65tb,cobra upper&lower,B303, GT-40 Crate with X al heads, Mac shorties, Off Road H,2chamber Flow's dumped, Tokico 5wys, Hotichkis Ctrl Arms, Alum Drive shaft, 3.73, Sub Frame,Steeda Tri-Ax, 94 Seats Drivers side powered.
#28386 04/24/01 05:36 AM
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OK Merlin,
I think I've asked you before, but now you have a y-pipe. Mine has a cat, but still...do you have a lot of in-cabin drone?
I just bought some 2.5" piping w/ a middle muffler, and I'm keeping the rear (post y-split) stock...for now. I'm super tempted to chop those rear mufflers outta there. Think I'll have too much drone??? Pipe goes on tomorrow morning!


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#28387 04/24/01 06:43 AM
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I know nothing about exhaust system so i'm going to ask this quick!..lol
I have a 96 SE MTX V6, I have NO exhaust mods. Can I buy the sho-shop Y pipe and do a direct replacement or do I have to get something else? Not sure if pipe diameter size factors in here as I know there is a diff in Non-svt's to Svt's (2" as apposed to 2.25"). Thanks.

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#28388 04/24/01 07:33 AM
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Simon,
You can get a SHO Shop y-pipe. It'll bolt right up to your existing pipe. You'll fully reap all benefits of the y-pipe when you upgrade the rest of your exhaust. You'll definately feel the difference, though, with just a y-pipe.
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#28389 04/24/01 05:45 PM
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As far as Drone gones on mine. Drone is really not to different. At 4K letting of the gas there is some drone, but I have not done any long highway miles with it yet to really say YA or NA. The exhaust is lounder, but it doesn't really effect in cabin sound.

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OK Merlin,
I think I've asked you before, but now you have a y-pipe. Mine has a cat, but still...do you have a lot of in-cabin drone?
I just bought some 2.5" piping w/ a middle muffler, and I'm keeping the rear (post y-split) stock...for now. I'm super tempted to chop those rear mufflers outta there. Think I'll have too much drone??? Pipe goes on tomorrow morning!



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Timing 14' FP 36,24lbs,190lph,75Maf,65tb,cobra upper&lower,B303, GT-40 Crate with X al heads, Mac shorties, Off Road H,2chamber Flow's dumped, Tokico 5wys, Hotichkis Ctrl Arms, Alum Drive shaft, 3.73, Sub Frame,Steeda Tri-Ax, 94 Seats Drivers side powered.
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Hey, now I got some miles on my car and the reset computer. I have noticed that I don't feel the secondaries open up. My guess is That I have gained a lot more lower end and It makes up for the dip when the secondaries kick in. Any one else notice this with there Sho pieces???

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Kansas City CEG
99 SVT Black #1210
1/4 15.564@ 88.24 mph
KKM intake/Custom Exhaust/Fog light mod /20%tint Dyno=163.8HP,148.5FT/LBS
CHIP Dyno'd 159.3hp 154.4tq 1/4=15.502@88.95
Sho off road y


Merlin

281hp 324tq
Timing 14' FP 36,24lbs,190lph,75Maf,65tb,cobra upper&lower,B303, GT-40 Crate with X al heads, Mac shorties, Off Road H,2chamber Flow's dumped, Tokico 5wys, Hotichkis Ctrl Arms, Alum Drive shaft, 3.73, Sub Frame,Steeda Tri-Ax, 94 Seats Drivers side powered.
#28391 04/24/01 08:41 PM
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I noticed it when the 73mm MAF went in so the y-pipe made no difference in that respect, but I know what you mean.

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