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#1621157 08/01/06 02:15 AM
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Well my car continues to missfire sometimes. Tonight it was not missfiring. I stopped at the local Dunkin Donuts and when I came back out and started it, it was missfiring. So I then shut the car off, but it started "deiseling" and then finally shut off after about 5 seconds. I then tried to restart it and it just refused! The engine seemed to turn, turn, turn, but would not start up. I did happen to notice that the Pats light was blinking when the key was on the "on" position.

Anyways, I just left the car there and had someone pick me up. I am praying that this is something simple. I just can't keep dumping money into this car.


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wire sequence? foul plugs? fouled wires? TPS sensor?


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Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
wire sequence...



...if you removed SP or wires recently.

The first thing to check is the SP wiring order and gap.
Duratec V6 Spark Plug wiring order. Note the 4-6-5 for the coil pack near the firewall side.

Firewall side
4- 6 -5 <--coil pack
3-2-1

1-2-3 <--engine
4-5-6
Radiator side

Spark Plug gap 0.054 inch

Scan and post codes.


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The wire sequence is def right. Plugs are new. Wires should be fine. I tried changin them out a couple weeks ago and they did stop the missfiring so I put the old ones back on. Where is the TPS located?


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Originally posted by cannondalemtb:
... I tried changin them out a couple weeks ago and they did stop the missfiring so I put the old ones back on...



What brand plugs and wires? And did you gap it? On this site, pre-gapped = wrong gap.

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If the plugs are fine, the wires are fine, and the compression is fine, try a coil.


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I did gap all the plugs to .054. I believe that the missfiring problem is due to an injector because the codes had previously read a cylinder 6 missfire as well as running lean. I have not had time to replace the injector yet.


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Originally posted by cannondalemtb:
... I have not had time to replace the injector yet.



To paraphrase Big Jim, the first rule of troubleshooting is to fix the things you know are wrong first.

You will need a real time scan to determine if the misfire 6 is due to fuel injector 6 or 2. Per your previous thread, Silversvts has 302 misfire due to injector 6. You won't really know until you get a real time scan.

Try previous suggestions first.
http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=trouble&Number=1280160&Forum=All_Forums&Words=25243&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=1280160&Search=true#Post1280160

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I understand that all that needs to be done. But would that really prevent it from starting like that? And so does that mean that I would have to now get it towed?


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TPS is in front of throttle body for Duratec (has wire connector to it). It is "round" (???) and black.

If you don't want to tow it back, and don't mind losing the CEL codes, pull Fuses 4 and 11 (in Power Distribution Box next to the battery) for a few minutes to reset the PCM. It might start after that (long enough to get it home). If it doesn't start, disconnect the negative terminal for a few minutes. Can't lose at that point.

Good night. Hope everything turns out fine for you.

Last edited by Tony2005; 08/01/06 04:06 AM.

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