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Originally posted by RRT_SVT:
ok i am very very angry with the last mechanic that changed the master cylinder i found the problem was the cap that go to the slave cylinder is bloked was a new master cylinder and he not opened or cut the part i noted because come a mechanic to my house to do the job and he try to bleed the slave cylinder and tell me , the part was uncuted he cut and can make the bleeding and yes i can move again my car buth still need a new clutch and third gear syncros  anyway it will more cheap to move myself the car to paid for a town so when checked for bleeding i recomend to check iif the main line of the brake fluid to the slave cylinder is not bloked that my little contribution to the post
I hope english is your second language 
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Originally posted by fastcougar:
You have to use the bottle, otherwise, when it sucks back, it will suck back air. Using the bottle with a little bit of fluid will cause it to suck back fluid vs. air. Otherwise, you wouldn't be bleeding anything 
BTW, same bottle and tube that I use 
What?! Suck back? How will it suck back if you open and close it with pressure on the clutch pedal? I've bled a lot of clutches w/o issue w/o a bottle. The only thing that does is keep the ground clean.
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You open/close the valve to stop it from sucking air back in. Your process:
Open valve, depress clutch pedal, close valve, release clutch pedal.
My process:
Open valve, pump clutch till no more air is expelled, close valve.
The fluid in the bottle stops the pumping action from sucking air back into the system ... think about it
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The bottle is there for more than just keeping the ground clean ... it creates a "damn" of fluid so that you don't have to keep closing the bleed valve between clutch depressions.
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Does the "fastcougar" method get all the air out?
Like I mean, can the air get past the fluid in the tube and into the bottle? What if the bottle gets full of air? Doesn't that mean you can't purge any more air from the system?
I dunno, sounds like both ways would work to me, but I like the 2 man bleed the best.
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Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
Does the "fastcougar" method get all the air out?
Like I mean, can the air get past the fluid in the tube and into the bottle? What if the bottle gets full of air? Doesn't that mean you can't purge any more air from the system?
I dunno, sounds like both ways would work to me, but I like the 2 man bleed the best.
Of course, you do need "two men."
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I just made sure the brake fluid reservoir was full, loosened the bleeder valve, let it bleed out, and tightened the bleeder valve. No pumping and nobody pumping the clutch. It works perfectly. If you have fluid in the reservoir, gravity will keep the fluid flowing out and the air from coming in.
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Gravity can not get out bubbles trapped in the piston bore of the master cylinder though ... only pumping can scavenge those ... also, gravity is forcing the fluid down ... where do you think that that air goes ... up right 
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Originally posted by muntus:
Mine works perfectly.
Fixed.
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Originally posted by muntus:
I just made sure the brake fluid reservoir was full, loosened the bleeder valve, let it bleed out, and tightened the bleeder valve. No pumping and nobody pumping the clutch. It works perfectly. If you have fluid in the reservoir, gravity will keep the fluid flowing out and the air from coming in.
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Gravity will bleed this slave on its own but to be fair you have to pump the pedal after the first bleed, maybe drive it around and then bleed it again to get any possible trapped bubbles.
When the slave is relaxed (no foot on the pedal) the inner chamber is at its smallest and it isn't that likely to trap much air.
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