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Originally posted by todras: So how much cheaper is it for E85? I hope you are saving more than $20 a month.
Originally posted by travisn1: The ethonol was way cheaper (about 50 cents less per gallon)
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i found ones that tell you the type of gaskets you need to have and which ones not to when i built the accords motor and found a ton of info.
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So you save about 7.25 a tank. So about $29 every 1000 miles. Nothing significant to warrant the possible damage to the car.
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http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/index.php?topic=47094.0No damage yet, and it has been almost a year. You need more compression or boost to get the same milage and power since ethanol has less energy than gasoline.
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Originally posted by todras: So you save about 7.25 a tank. So about $29 every 1000 miles. Nothing significant to warrant the possible damage to the car.
So you save 0.50/gallon or about what 17%?
But IIRC E85 delivers like 25% less MPG (supported by your own results) so you end up losing money right?
1000 miles / 26mpg * 3.00 = $115 regular
1000 miles / 19 mpg * 2.50 = $131 E85
...plus future repairs.
BTW - a major problem with E85 in non-E85 cars is the evaporative emission canisters, they get soft/swell with exposure to ethanol. Once that happens the carbon inside get's loose, jiggles around and turns to dust. Flex vehicles have specific evap canisters - when I interned with GM, AC Rochester Division back in college I ran the qual tests for a new acetel evap housing that stood up to the alchohol.
-edit- at least that was a big problem back in 90 or so when I was there...
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Well, the contour is back to normal fuel now. The car performes better again and maybe the alcohol fixed my ineffiecent catalytic converter...because i have not got a check engine code in over 500 miles, which is rare. Usually every 100 miles the light will come on. the fuel was determined to cost a little more because of the lower energy content. So my test is complete. My Dad talked to one of their automotive engineers at work on the subject as well and the guy has a new Suburban and thats built for E85 and he ran a tank of E85 and noticed poor fuel economy as compared to regular gasoline too. He did not think the E85 would hurt the car, but it didn;t help it. I would benefit from different temp spark plugs and more compression, but this is the extent of my test for now.
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