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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Oh look, some people showed up to bench race the AM car. It's interesting that this thread was up for four days until Todd decided to make a crack, and now everyone wants to play. Keep the jaded attitudes in CI. It's ironic that this is the same crew that defended the Veyron as amazing when others pulled the same thing with that car. Some guy built a sick car (which is nothing like a kart at all) and can drive it. If any of your hopped in that machine, and gave that guy the keys to your 'tour, he'd whoop you.




WTH? It wasn't a crack. It was my opinion. This is the first time I saw the post. I have no idea why your post is filled with anger.


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Your post was pointless. You stated that you'd rather see a street car run because it's slower than a shifter kart. So what?


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Your post was pointless. You stated that you'd rather see a street car run because it's slower than a shifter kart. So what?




Certainly did not. It's more impressive than a purpose built shifter kart. That some kid took his daily driver and turned it into a great handling AutoX car. Pretty hard not to suck at driving that kart.


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"It's more impressive than a purpose built shifter kart. "

It's not even close to a shifter kart. Shifter karts have no suspension, relatively low power, no downforce, and are bought, not made.

"Pretty hard not to suck at driving that kart. "

AM cars are rediculously hard to drive. Again: if that guy drove your Contour, and you drove that beast, he would win. Plus, it's much harder to make something like that handle well than a street car. With my car I have to worry about alignment, spring rates, swaybar, and damping. He has way, way more to deal with: there's no design factor that he didn't have to engineer carefully to make it as fast as possible.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:


AM cars are rediculously hard to drive. Again: if that guy drove your Contour, and you drove that beast, he would win.




I doubt that 100%. You haven't seen me drive. You'll never change my mind so you can stop. That thing is a hell of a lot easier to get around the cones than a car ever will.


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Some numbers for you all from http://www.brr-scca.org/CommonwealthGames2006.html

Me:
Sat raw: 52.046
Sat PAX: 43.630
Sun raw: 50.126
Sun PAX: 42.006

Todd Bowland:
Sat raw: 39.587
Sun raw: 37.582

That's ownership.

He was Fastest time PAX with an index of 1.000. Think about that. It isn't a cart, it has a real suspension (fancy custom Konis), Hoosier slicks, a 3 cylinder Arctic Cat snowmobile engine, and so much downforce that it has to be trailered in a closed trailer. This is the car that the AM PAX is based on.

Only one car was under four seconds back PAXwise from Todd, and he has the cush STS PAX and is in the spec STS car and does national events.


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Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:


AM cars are rediculously hard to drive. Again: if that guy drove your Contour, and you drove that beast, he would win.




I doubt that 100%. You haven't seen me drive. You'll never change my mind so you can stop. That thing is a hell of a lot easier to get around the cones than a car ever will.



Yeah you'd probably spin out every corner.


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Just so you know you can drive your ford contour and ill drive my craftsman 18hp lawnmover and woop your ass.


Thats the same gay ass lame reasoning your using. But honestly you both suck soo bad at driving i probably could

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

Yeah you'd probably spin out every corner.




Care to post your results from autox's you've competed in?


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This thread is now officially lame.



Function before fashion. '96 Contour SE "Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998
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