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Thanks, I got the key points I was looking for. One question though... at one point Dave talks about boring up to 2mm, which directly contradicts what I'm hearing from others. It would be easier to bore this block another .5mm rather than buying a new/used block, but who should I believe?


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Because machine shops suck unless it's a Chevy 350. Looks like you found that out already. I wouldn't use anything that doesn't use a stock Ford piston and ring.


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Originally posted by todras:
machine shops suck unless it's a Chevy 350.




Amen.


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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Thanks, I got the key points I was looking for. One question though... at one point Dave talks about boring up to 2mm, which directly contradicts what I'm hearing from others. It would be easier to bore this block another .5mm rather than buying a new/used block, but who should I believe?


Why do you seem dead set on boring it out? IMO, if you are dead set on boring it out stick with a shop that is used to boring out Ford ModMotor engines (4.6/5.4). You aren't going to notice any huge gains with that small of an overbore.


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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
If anyone has a link to the extremely thurough 3L hybrid How-To, I would appreciate it.




1. Buy low mileage 3L
2. Remove 2.5L heads from existing 3L
3. Remove heads from new 3L
4. Compare the 2 blocks, and fill the same passages on the new block, that the old block had filled.
5. Cut off the same tabs on the new block, that the old block had cut off.
6. Cut crankshaft bearing
7. Install 2.5L heads onto new 3L
8. Install back into car in reverse order of it coming out.

Voi-la!

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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by CLASSVT:
If anyone has a link to the extremely thurough 3L hybrid How-To, I would appreciate it.




1. Buy low mileage 3L
2. Remove 2.5L heads from existing 3L
3. Remove heads from new 3L
4. Compare the 2 blocks, and fill the same passages on the new block, that the old block had filled.
5. Cut off the same tabs on the new block, that the old block had cut off.
6. Cut crankshaft bearing
7. Install 2.5L heads onto new 3L
8. Install back into car in reverse order of it coming out.

Voi-la!

Mark


Just like Todd stated, once you fill the needed passages, cut off an ear on the alt tab, the damn thing goes back together just like a 2.5L. I followed my Ford CD and it has more than enough details in it.


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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Thanks, I got the key points I was looking for. One question though... at one point Dave talks about boring up to 2mm, which directly contradicts what I'm hearing from others. It would be easier to bore this block another .5mm rather than buying a new/used block, but who should I believe?


Why do you seem dead set on boring it out? IMO, if you are dead set on boring it out stick with a shop that is used to boring out Ford ModMotor engines (4.6/5.4). You aren't going to notice any huge gains with that small of an overbore.




Not dead set in any way, shape, or form Ryan. I said that I was getting confliciting info from different members, and I was unsure of what to believe. I just thought it may possibly be cheaper. Don't crucify me just yet folks. I jut want to make sure that I get it right this time. And as far as the how-to I was looking for, it was for the minor details that I didn't want the shop just taking guesses at. I understand the basics. But I've since got those details. Thanks to everyone.


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Originally posted by todras:

http://www.geocities.com/svt_mondeo/3L.html




Originally posted by that link:

Q. How much of a power increase would I expect with a 3L swap?

A. A completely stock 98 SVT made around 189hp/189tq to the wheels. With the above mods I would say 210-20hp is very possible. As of March, 6th my 3L is making 245hp, 215ft lbs-tq at the wheels





What stock 98 svt was that??

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Originally posted by hotdimmes:
Originally posted by todras:

http://www.geocities.com/svt_mondeo/3L.html




Originally posted by that link:

Q. How much of a power increase would I expect with a 3L swap?

A. A completely stock 98 SVT made around 189hp/189tq to the wheels. With the above mods I would say 210-20hp is very possible. As of March, 6th my 3L is making 245hp, 215ft lbs-tq at the wheels





What stock 98 svt was that??

sorry for the thread hi jack




I don't know which stock SVT that was, I got that off David Zs' FAQ, so maybe he had a freak SVT that dynoed that much.

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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Thanks a lot. I have done a lot of searching but keep coming up just short of what I'm looking for. I would like to give a printed out How-To of the hybrid build. The one that I have from an old PM won't link anymore. And with all due respect Tom, your's just doesn't seem very detailed in regards to the actual build, at least compared the muiltipage version that I remember printing off the first time I went through this. Same with the one from the Neco forums. All I could come up with from searching was a straight 3L build. If anyone has a link to the extremely thurough 3L hybrid How-To, I would appreciate it. Otherwise I'll just keep searching. Thanks again everyone.




No offense taken. I don't usually spell things out because I believe the person doing it should have the freedom to approach the problem with a somewhat open mind. I'll give specifics when someone is stuck. I choose the "Here are the results that are possible" and general discussion that follows talk about how to do it.
When someone outlines it exactly step by step then what does the person following them really do for themselves? The sense of pride is greater when a problem is confronted and solved.


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