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Hey guys, got a question i feel I should know the answer to but don't... but first some backstory.
I recently purchased a 95 Mystique with the intention of my dad driving it. The car didn't run but was in pretty nice shape and only cost $500. It's been in at the ford dealer where i work and it now runs, but the tech is thinking it has either a burnt valve or a sticking valve in the rear head. I'm looking for the most bang for my buck here. I figure to r&r the rear head and redo the timing and everything has got to be 10 hours labor or so (I haven't looked it up, just a guess) not to mention the cost of getting whatever work done to the head I'll need.

Now, the question. I saw in the classifieds a 99 SVT block and heads for sale in Canada with about 64K miles. I know the 95's are OBD1, but if I use all the standard electronics would the 99 engine run on OBD1 without any real issues? One thing I'm concerned about with this idea is the injectors and if the 19# injectors would/could work from the stock computer or if chips or anything are available for the OBD1 ecu.

My other two options I'm considering are just some SVT heads or the one I least want to go with is just having the stock head redone. Anyway, thoughts, knowledge and even opinions on the subject would be appreciated. I'll check back in about a week when I get back to civilization.


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SVT block and heads? You are basically describing a long block, right? No problem, bolt on all the 95 parts, LIM and UIM. There is absolutely no mechanical reason at all to run 19# injectors.







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Originally posted by JEDsContour:
SVT block and heads? You are basically describing a long block, right? No problem, bolt on all the 95 parts, LIM and UIM. There is absolutely no mechanical reason at all to run 19# injectors.






It obviously would work... But I think about this and I personally think you should go 3L. I mean, yeah how cool would that be? a 95 stique with an SVT motor... But that means you have to run high octane gas, with is $$$ Or you could go with a 3L for about the same price, with the same amount of miles, get a better motor that puts out more power, gets better gas mileage, and will run on regular gas if properly tuned.


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Originally posted by AliasJerkââ??¢:
Originally posted by JEDsContour:
SVT block and heads? You are basically describing a long block, right? No problem, bolt on all the 95 parts, LIM and UIM. There is absolutely no mechanical reason at all to run 19# injectors.






It obviously would work... But I think about this and I personally think you should go 3L. I mean, yeah how cool would that be? a 95 stique with an SVT motor... But that means you have to run high octane gas, with is $$$ Or you could go with a 3L for about the same price, with the same amount of miles, get a better motor that puts out more power, gets better gas mileage, and will run on regular gas if properly tuned.





why would a SVT engine in a 95 need premium fuel? To make it work you would have to use all of the sensors, etc from the 95 ... that includes the pcm, which is already tuned for regular not premium


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Originally posted by BrApple-SeVT:
Originally posted by AliasJerkââ??¢:
Originally posted by JEDsContour:
SVT block and heads? You are basically describing a long block, right? No problem, bolt on all the 95 parts, LIM and UIM. There is absolutely no mechanical reason at all to run 19# injectors.






It obviously would work... But I think about this and I personally think you should go 3L. I mean, yeah how cool would that be? a 95 stique with an SVT motor... But that means you have to run high octane gas, with is $$$ Or you could go with a 3L for about the same price, with the same amount of miles, get a better motor that puts out more power, gets better gas mileage, and will run on regular gas if properly tuned.





why would a SVT engine in a 95 need premium fuel? To make it work you would have to use all of the sensors, etc from the 95 ... that includes the pcm, which is already tuned for regular not premium





Cause if it is a long block it included the lower compression pistions...and you really would like high octane gas for that....or you will get real nice knock.


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Originally posted by elraido:
Originally posted by BrApple-SeVT:
Originally posted by AliasJerkââ??¢:
Originally posted by JEDsContour:
SVT block and heads? You are basically describing a long block, right? No problem, bolt on all the 95 parts, LIM and UIM. There is absolutely no mechanical reason at all to run 19# injectors.






It obviously would work... But I think about this and I personally think you should go 3L. I mean, yeah how cool would that be? a 95 stique with an SVT motor... But that means you have to run high octane gas, with is $$$ Or you could go with a 3L for about the same price, with the same amount of miles, get a better motor that puts out more power, gets better gas mileage, and will run on regular gas if properly tuned.





why would a SVT engine in a 95 need premium fuel? To make it work you would have to use all of the sensors, etc from the 95 ... that includes the pcm, which is already tuned for regular not premium





Cause if it is a long block it included the lower compression pistions...and you really would like high octane gas for that....or you will get real nice knock.




exactly, Premium gas required doesnt just mean that the computer is tuned for it. Its both software and hardware.


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I keep thinking of putting a 3.0L in my car when the engine desides to die, but there are so many little different "tweeking" things that need to go on, I am not sure it would be cost effective as getting a new car.


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i hope you guys realize that 95's are OBDI and 96+ are OBD II


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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.


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Originally posted by elraido:
Cause if it is a long block it included the lower compression pistions...and you really would like high octane gas for that....or you will get real nice knock.



I think you meant higher compression.


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Originally posted by Tourige:
i hope you guys realize that 95's are OBDI and 96+ are OBD II


Yes, I realize that. So what?


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