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I see where you are coming from Tom and knew everything you stated, but it's not proven ... one engine proves nothing. Right now your batting 100 ... what happens when you add in more and more engines to mix ... some are bound to fail. Nobel knows this and thus why they went with a forged rod.

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I'm not the only one though.

Also, there are other factors that indicate the rod strength is high enough.

Don't you remember when I said I've actually tested 3 different sets of rods to above the 300 HP level. The first engine, then I cracked the pistons on it. Replaced pistons and rod combos and ran that engine. Then changed to a '01 escape 3L and ran that one.
Those pistons and rods have been sustaining over two years of boost and the engine was never set below 300 wHP while I owned it.

So how do you explain that?
While you guys were debating it for the last two years, I was already running boosted for a year on the first motor. This last motor was a year and a half of boost before Ray bought it.

While people were spending years on their buildups I was grinning from ear to ear.
My car never saw less than 200 wHP since 2001. The secret was planning and doing the project in stages to give myself a chance to figure out the effects of each mod, then enjoy it at the same time. It wasn't allways easy but I managed to overall love 95% of every minute with my car. The longest it was ever down was about a month when I was first doing the first 3L swap with the custom heads. Then the last time was with the pipework.
Mostly, I just drove the hell out of it loving every minute of it, and with the money I saved I could still take my woman to Taco Bell <big spender right?> lol


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Originally posted by warmonger:
and with the money I saved I could still take my woman to Taco Bell <big spender right?> lol




Taco Bell... Hmmm, the only survivor of the franchise wars... ΓΆβ?¬Ε?Now everything is taco bell!"




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Originally posted by warmonger:
Those pistons and rods have been sustaining over two years of boost and the engine was never set below 300 wHP while I owned it....


...a year and a half of boost before Ray bought it.





I don't have long to get on CEG, lately but;
The motor hasn't seen less than 350+wheels since I got it, either, and is now pushing much more than that. It will continue to do so. If I can't drive a car the way I WANT to drive it and at the power levels that I am desiring, then what is the point of having it, right? I bought the car in full confidence, and will continue to keep that confidence. The motor is being upped in stages, and upgraded as those stages require. I do not intend for the levels to go down once established safely. These rods are not, IMHO, what anyone should be spending their money (and mod TIME!!) on.





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Ummmmm Ray, when did this happen?

Originally posted by Ray's sig:
414/379 wHP/TQ at 14psi on pump gas!




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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Stock rods have been shown to be good up to 350+ whp. Nobody has broken one yet on a FI application.



I've heard 415+ actually and I agree with the second point.


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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Stock rods have been shown to be good up to 350+ whp. Nobody has broken one yet on a FI application.



I've heard 415+ actually and I agree with the second point.






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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Ummmmm Ray, when did this happen?

Originally posted by Ray's sig:
414/379 wHP/TQ at 14psi on pump gas!




Mark




That's what i'm wondering....


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